Hey. I'm an independent multi-genre music producer and visual artist, with millions of streams, vaporwave pioneer and handsome. I have tracks licensed to brands like Thrasher, Playstation (Theme), New York Fashion Week, vinyls and tapes released, lots of things to list. Everything here is about escapism.
My official site is https://t.co/aDREABWVaI
SPOTIFY: https://t.co/EyigeKyjY5
SOUNDCLOUD: https://t.co/UwTMd17VxU
YOUTUBE: https://t.co/j9ufPSbUKH
BANDCAMP: https://t.co/90L2v9PsGv
APPLE: https://t.co/wcreiRFcpC
TIKTOK: https://t.co/fyEyD1byx1
INSTAGRAM: https://t.co/RwMd2fXs08
GOOGLE: https://t.co/XtZ7iqYgFn
Aí que tá, eu falo do próprio nome, não do som. Funk brasileiro é Tim Maia, Jorge Ben, Azymuth, Marcos Valle, o erro começou na raiz do gênero do Marlboro e cia. Quando eu digo que gosto de funk aqui no br pros outros, ninguém vai fazer a ligação com Con Funk Shun, Earth, Wind & Fire, BB&Q Band, George Duke, os funk legítimos lá do início dos 80s, quando começaram a usar muito synths e drum machines, tipo Kashif e tantos outros do groove.
Entendeu? O "fanque" só é chamado assim no br por erro, é uma apropriação do nome de um gênero que já existia no resto do mundo, pra algo diferente que foram desenvolvendo, o público nem os djs diferenciaram o nome quando o som começou a mudar nos bailes black nos 80s, 90s, 2000s.
No mundo inteiro se eu disser que curto funk vão entender que é o da wikipédia https://t.co/bgA7Jbo4T3
Meus brother gringo entendem na hora quando menciono funk, aqui no br tenho que explicar que não é o funk carioca, e que funk carioca é outra coisa, funk paulista não é funk, baile funk é diferente do funk no resto do mundo, etc. EU é que tenho que me explicar, e não o contrário. Mas isso não tem mais volta.
fala irmão, "o gênero inteiro" foi modo de falar, generalizei. o pontapé inicial foi mais ou menos isso, os caras loopando vinil de trilha de novela (de onde saiu a rainforest), mas outras coisas acontecendo em paralelo
eu conheço bem a história, marlboro, tamborzão, voltmix, passei dos 40, estudo, vivo, ouço, escrevo e produzo música eletrônica
inclusive "se adonaram" do nome de um dos gêneros musicais que mais curto e ouço, porque realmente tocava o funk americano nos bailes lá nos 70s, 80s, a partir daí começaram a chamar de funk tudo que tocava nesses picos, incluindo as montagens miami bass com mcs br rimando em cima, infelizmente virou bagunça, uma pena um gênero br não ter um nome próprio. ela deve saber disso também, não é uma apropriação?
o ponto é que a mina multimilionária quer criticar diretamente quem sampleia e chama de ladrão, não importa se vem de um prompt ou de um som de terceiro, a origem e a realidade da música eletrônica, funk br ou qualquer outra coisa, é o sampling, o remix, é de onde ela veio.
com 250 milhões na conta vai querer falar pro maninho com um toca-disco e um vinil de novela não fazer as montagens que ele quer, vai esculhambar o outro com o fl studio crackeado, ou o outro que só tem um android, um suno e uma ideia na cabeça, vai dissuadir o cara de fazer música, pq tem uma indústria de m3rda bilionária - gravadoras, essas sim que roubam os artistas - querendo ditar o que pode e o que não pode fazer?
put4 textão meu :)
valeu pelos links e pela educação, manin
Todo mundo sabe da influência dos Kraftwerk, eu pelo menos há uns 30 anos. Nesse caso específico, influência ≠ sample, e nada errado nem em um, nem em outro. O ponto é: o funk carioca, movimento de onde a cantora veio e faz parte, faturou milhões usando sample direto da Rain Forest do Paul Hardcastle, sem citar a fonte nem distribuir os royalties; não só dele, a cultura do sample faz parte do jogo, é legal, eu gosto, uso. Hipocrisia e tiro no pé é ela fazer palestrinha chamando de "roubo" quando a influência, inspiração e sampling vem por meio de IA e não quando vem do sistema que enriqueceu ela e sua turma.
@SaintParamaribo internacional pq eram as músicas internacionais, lançavam outro com a trilha de artistas nacionais, o vinilzão era br, gravadora som livre, mesmo valor
sim, e diretamente da trilha da novela da globo, vinil importado era fora da realidade, samplearam demais a "Rainforest" e tá tudo certo, o problema é a mina falar de "roubo intelectual" uma IA se basear numa música pra criar outra, quando ela veio de um movimento que hoje é bilionário e nunca pagaram nada pro Hardcastle, por exemplo
I'm about to post a long one here. A whole story.
Some guys have been working on a vaporwave documentary for about six years now, and apparently they left me out. I was one of the pioneers of the genre. My project turns 14 years old this year. A lot of the artists featured in the doc are people I've been "URL friends" with for over a decade, even if we don't talk much. I currently have collabs in progress with some of them.
Back in 2012/2013, I helped push the careers of several early pioneers through the /vaporwave facebook page I created when I first started this project. facebook was the platform at the time. Even years later, after the page had been inactive and I had already left facebook in 2013, it still had over 20k followers. For a small niche like this, back then, that was a lot.
I helped build the scene early on, not just with that page but also through multiple tumblrs I created. I was featured on seminal compilations. I have a video mixtape that's considered a vaporwave reference. It's on youtube with almost 1 million views and hundreds of positive comments from people all over the world.
I have an album that's considered a worldwide reference in the genre, and another project with a track that's also seen as a reference, with well over 10 million streams combined across platforms. Artists from this micro-scene who are big today, some of them in this documentary, sent me private messages years ago saying they started their projects inspired by my work. I still have those messages.
I've released my albums on vinyl. If it's around 300, hundreds of copies sold to different countries. Cassette tapes too. My vaporwave tracks have been used in Thrasher videos, shown at New York Fashion Week, and I was invited to produce a track with this project for a Japanese girl band. That album was released through a label under Victor Entertainment, one of the oldest and most influential record companies in the world, with its history dating back to 1895 and closely tied to the invention of the gramophone.
I'm on IMDb. Last year, one of my tracks was used in an American short film that won awards at multiple festivals, the first AI-generated short to premiere in IMAX.
All of this is online for anyone to verify. I'll probably organize it properly into a mini-doc or a well-written article at some point. I just haven't done that yet, and I probably should have.
I never chased anyone. People came to me. I never asked for anything.
My project has been used and cited in multiple academic theses here in Brazil. They're archived on google scholar. Just search for "VHS LOGOS", which is the first vaporwave project in Brazil, and possibly in Latin America.
I've had over 50k monthly listeners only on spotify for at least five years. I've been on spotify's official editorial Vaporwave playlist for about five years as well, and also on "Liminal". I'm not signed to any label. I don't DJ. I've never been part of collectives. Check my numbers on youtube, soundcloud and spotify. Compare them with other artists from this scene. I'm a statistical outlier here, no fake modesty. All organic numbers.
I don't have friends at pitchfork, bandcamp, billboard, big music YouTubers, or anything like that, unlike some people who used that kind of influence to get press. And that's fine.
Back in 2013, there was a small drama on the facebook page I mentioned. I criticized the dozens of projects popping up from producers coming from other genres, or total amateurs, who didn't even understand what they were doing or didn't even like the kind of music we were sampling. They were there for hype and memes. I knew this because I ran the page alone and received tons of messages every day asking for promotion. I could tell, and I didn't post them.
I also didn't post future funk, even though I'm a future funk producer myself. At the time, I was helping shape vaporwave. I was curating the sound and the aesthetic. Anyone searching for "vaporwave" on facebook landed on my page. They had to see and hear vaporwave there. That was my mindset.
So I argued with some people from that "scene". They got butthurt over nothing, insulted me, and I insulted them back. Later on, I was invited to be one of the editors for spotify's official Future Funk playlist. The person who invited me didn't know that a few people disliked me because of that old stuff. When he asked others if I should be included, he never got back to me. Funny how this world works.
The documentary is probably already finished and coming out this year. I don't know if I'm mentioned. No one ever contacted me. At this point, I don't even care if they do. I'm making my own mini-doc this year, focused on my own project. It might not be as polished, but the history will be documented for the future. Maybe then someone will finally write a Wikipedia article about me, because I'm not there either, even though others from the same niche are.
I never asked, and I'm not asking, anyone about this documentary. It's their project, and they're free to curate and tell the story however they want. But let's be honest. If I'm not in that documentary, it's incomplete and arbitrary.
So what's the problem? Am I wrong here? Is it because I'm Brazilian? Because they don't like me? Because I'm low-profile? They know me. They know my project. Not just because of everything I mentioned. Every artist in that documentary knows VHS LOGOS. Did no one suggest including me? Or did someone suggest it and it got shut down?
To be clear. I'm not the star of anything. I'm not the protagonist. I'm not better than anyone. I'm not competing. But I do have a historical place in this, don't I? If someone makes something called "the history of vaporwave" and doesn't include VHS LOGOS for even five seconds, it's not just that the story is incomplete, because plenty of names won't be included anyway. Given everything I've laid out here, what possible reason would there be to erase my role in a genre and aesthetic called VAPORWAVE, which I helped create, shape and am undeniably part of?
Am I overthinking this? Or are they straight up being 4ssholes to me?
Yo, my Grok AI art adds a tiny bit to xAI's compute, but it's like saying your tiktok scrolls poison a city. xAI's Memphis turbines pump maybe 1200 to 2000 tons of NOx yearly, a speck next to the US's 4.8 billion tons of CO2. I'm in Brazil, where we churn out 480 million tons. You sweating US oil plants or coal messing up our air here too, or just dunking on AI users? Let's bug xAI for solar power instead of hating on my posts.