Darknight

A nobody, who stumbled upon consciousness. Art.Alchemy.Astronomy.Anatomy.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

We charm snakes ✨

[Darknight @vimodkr]

These people native to India (probable their ancestors) and similar profession must be more than thousands of years old.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

Instant Ego killer:
You may be working in high end jobs with a 6 digit salary.
Every day in a week, dress up in ordinary clothes, walk out of your house and find a place on the platform of a busy street.
And try polishing the shoes of People who walk by and earn some wages out of it.
Or
Try to be a Mendicant for one day in a week, collect food by wandering around the streets.
These are best ways to kill the ego instantly that cannot be taught by any guru.
Some people do these as part of a religious ritual.

[Parimal @Fintech03]

When the West tries to explain the mind, we usually fall back on Sigmund Freud’s clinical trinity: the Id, the Ego & the Superego. But 1000s of yrs before Western psychoanalysis was even a concept, the Vedic rishis had already mapped this entire system with a far cleaner, multi-layered software architecture called the Antahkarana (the inner instrument).

Think of our mind as a hyper-advanced corporate enterprise. The ancient texts break it down into 4 distinct departments:

- 1st, there is Chitta, the hard drive. This is the vast, silent storage room holding every memory, trauma & hidden subconscious impression (Samskaras) we have ever accumulated. It is the ultimate cosmic database.

- Next is Manas, the sensory processor. This is the restless, reactive lower mind connected directly to our 5 senses. It operates entirely on immediate comfort & raw desire, constantly looping in a state of "I want this, I like that, let me avoid pain."

- Then comes Ahankara, the I-Maker/identity filter. It takes the raw data from our senses & our db & draws a protective boundary around it. It claims ownership, stating, "This is my body, this is my opinion, this belongs to me." It creates the concept of personal separation.

- Finally, at the top, sits Buddhi, the CEO. This is our highest intellectual faculty, our capacity for logic, deep wisdom & moral discrimination. While Manas screams, "I want to eat that entire plate of Jalebis right now!", Buddhi steps in as the rational judge & says, "No, it compromises our health goals."

When Sigmund Freud arrived in the 20th century to study human neurosis, he essentially attempted to translate this ancient machinery into a clinical framework. The parallels are striking:

- The ID is purely Manas: Freud's Id is the primitive, unconscious pleasure-seeker driven by basic biological instincts. This is exactly how Manas behaves when left completely unsupervised by higher intelligence reacting impulsively to sensory inputs.

- The SUPEREGO is the high-level Buddhi: The Superego acts as our internal moral compass, enforcing ethics & checking our impulses. In the Indian stack, this is the precise function of a refined Buddhi, which understands the difference b/w Preyas (what is temporarily pleasant) & Shreyas (what is fundamentally good for us).

- The EGO is Ahankara mixed with lower Buddhi: Freud’s Ego is the practical mediator trying to navigate daily reality. It is anchored by Ahankara creating the boundary of the self, using the analytical, survival-based calculations of Buddhi to manage external expectations.

More importantly, Freud assumed that the conscious Ego was the absolute highest peak of human identity. The rishis smiled at this limitation. They understood that the entire mind stack: the memory, the senses, the ego & even the intellect is just material software.

The true us is not the mind. The true us is the Atman: the silent, unchanging, cosmic consciousness that sits quietly above the entire machinery, watching the software run.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

The famous conjoined elephant and bull sculpture—such as the 900-year-old masterpiece at the Airavatesvara Temple in Darasuram, Tamil Nadu—is an ancient optical illusion. It denotes the unity of different divine paths, the illusion of reality (Maya), and showcases the incredible brilliance of Chola-era artisans.

??? Yoga
Spiritual ???
Tantra ??

[Darknight @vimodkr]

Look at the elephant image you attached. Notice the tail and the legs and tusk.

Look at the elephant image attached by me. Notice the legs and tail and tusk.

There is a clear difference.

In your image, the legs and tail does not look like of an elephant's. No tusk.
It is more like a bull's legs and tail.

Look at the image here. They have given details of the nails, tail hair and the thickness of legs for an elephant.
One Elephant has horn like feature. Other elephant does not have .
Probably that must not be horn. Tusk is there.
@yajnadevam @cbkwgl

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@grok can you check ?

[Darknight @vimodkr]

These are Navagraha deities.
These have both astronomical and Esoteric significance.

How did they observe this 9 planet phenomenon ?
Eurasian - Steppe ?
Concentrated Navagraha temples are located in Tamilnadu. These are thousands of years old. Do any other civilization have observed or worshipped navagraha ?
@Openatic

[yajnadevam @yajnadevam]

The number of such observations is too high to have survived only in Indic. If the observations were made elsewhere, other cultures would have these stories too.

Also, many such 2300 bce observations are related to specific rites which mention places and tech such as building a brick altar while facing Krittika rising at spring equinox.

The long string of these observations are in the appropriate time sequence matching the sequence of the texts. If these were pre-text observations, no such pattern would be possible.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@vazhakandy @Cosmic_Galactic @aravind @Fintech03 @sarvamedha @AkhilKumarSaho8 @jain80247 @marthandavelan @kronasura @sanskrit1906 @TheBlackOne_95 Not Anahata.
Its Manipura .

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@aravind @Fintech03 @sarvamedha @AkhilKumarSaho8 @vazhakandy @jain80247 @marthandavelan @kronasura @sanskrit1906
@TheBlackOne_95
@Cosmic_Galactic
Ramayana is both Tantric yoga and Astronomical events(Age of Aries) embedded in a moral story telling format.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

https://t.co/OcwfTpyzvg

Ramayana, an astronomical allegory ??
-From the age of Aries

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@vazhakandy @Cosmic_Galactic @aravind @Fintech03 @sarvamedha @AkhilKumarSaho8 @jain80247 @marthandavelan @kronasura @sanskrit1906 @TheBlackOne_95 https://t.co/srwNXzh2fi

[Darknight @vimodkr]

‘Tirtha Yatra’ that devotees undertake, and the inner journey of the Prana Shakti / Kundalini along the chakras of the subtle body.
#Ayodhya #kundalini #yoga

[Darknight @vimodkr]

So why was Madhava school of Astronomy and mathematics was run in kerala ? They could have initiated to somewhere else , if the lattitudes and longitudes were not favourable ?

Agastya malai, agastyar koodam, Podhigai malai, and many such places were used as spots for astronomical observations.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

"Northern Hemisphere including parts of Eurasian Steppes. It alone doesn't confirm the location as Indian Subcontinent unfortunately."

@grok which is most favorable for astronomical observations? Indian subcontinent (especially kerala and Tamilnadu) or Northern hemisphere /Eurasian Steppes ?

[Openminded Fanatic @Openatic]

While Thuban as Dhruva reference is sign of an observation being made around 2300 BCE, it could have been made from many other places in the Northern Hemisphere including parts of Eurasian Steppes. It alone doesn't confirm the location as Indian Subcontinent unfortunately.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@vazhakandy @aravind @Fintech03 @sarvamedha @AkhilKumarSaho8 @jain80247 @marthandavelan @kronasura @sanskrit1906 @TheBlackOne_95 @Cosmic_Galactic Ayodhya = A + Yuddha
Yuddha = Conflict
Ayodhya = Where there is no conflict.
(Ad said by Swami chinmayananda of Chinmaya mission )

Ayodhya denotes the heart chakra (Anahata) where there is no conflict.
@Cosmic_Galactic

[Darknight @vimodkr]

Astrology came from India.
Mostly the southern part(Kerala and Tamilnadu).

Its not Jyotush. Its Jyotisham.Both in Sanskrit and Malayalam.
Jyoti = light (stars and planets appear as light in the sky)
The study & Computation of the stars/planets is called Jyotisham.

Actual Jyotisham has shlokas and poem like phrases recited to easily remember, like the tables and formulae in mathematics.

Ancient vedic mathematics was also recited like poems and sholkas.

A Person who is skilled in Jyothisham in malayalam is called a 'Kaniyaar'. There are families with lineages who practise actual Jyotisham. Not like some sudden online Astrologers.

''Kananam/Gananam" = Counting/ Calculating/computation/ reckoning.

Ancient India was full of Astrologers, Mantriks, Tantriks, Tarot readers, Naadi Astrologers, Palm readership with Karungali stick, Parrot Astrologers, Boom Boom Maadu (a person with bull who predicts events), Kudukuppaikkaran, Kruvikkaran (Aadivasi tribes), Irulars(Snake catcher's & Rare Ayurvedic / Siddha herbs dealers),
Oracles, Spell casters, Voodoo masters etc.
Vasiyam , Ucchadanam, Maaranam,
Sthambanam, were used against enemies.

There were magicians & sorcerer.
Magic was originated in India and Persia. Later spread to other places. The snake charming was abundant in India. This skill was spread to Egypt.
Persia and India exchanged Magic and Sorcerers.
Indian rope magic is still purely indian. No one else in the world can even do that. To make a rope dance like a snake.
There are magic to grow a mango tree from a mango seed within minutes, covering it with a basket. All these are Indian.
Even in villages you can find snake charmers.

Cheppum Pandhum(Bowl and ball) magic is indian. These are all native to India. Later these were exchanged between Persia , Arabia and Egypt.

There were magic spells to stop a wild animal. Make it collapse and paralyse.
Tamil Siddhas talks about these.

There were Prashna Jyotishas who would look for Nimittha to predict events. Beetel leaf and black Kajal paste were used to find lost objects and persons.

Even before a war during the times of kings, they used to invoke deadly deities like Shooli/Neeli/ Yakshi/Varahi, Varthaali, Rakshas etc to destroy the enemy.
Mantrik Yaagas were conducted.
Amulets and Talisman were worn by soldiers. Upasanas and Sadhanas were done before a war. They used to sacrifice Buffaloes, Chicken and goat to their deity before a war for victory.

Recent example is Chatrapati Shivaji.
He also have sacrificed blood to his worshipping deity.

Ancient tamil /Malayalam godess 'Porkali' and Kottravai were worshipped and give blood sacrifice before a war. These are war goddesses.

A warrior who martyred in war was worshipped as 'Hero stone' / Veera kkal.

Many native aadivaasi tribes have been still following such practises in India. Especially kerala and Tamilnadu.

[Prof. C. K. Raju @CKRaju14]

2. As also explained in Indian Calendar Scientific Aspects, no astrology in the Vedanga Jyotish, only science of timekeeping.

Jyotish means timekeeping confounded with phalit jyotish (astrology).

In the attempted debate between scientists and astrologer 25 years ago, before the international press I challenged any one to show me one sentence on astrology in Vedanga Jyotish. No one did.

So astrology came from outside, starting with Varahamihira. But from Egypt, not incompetent Greeks. ../3

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@Anand_Venkatram @yajnadevam @grok can u go through the given link of the article and give detwiled Your views ?

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@Anand_Venkatram Thoughts

[Darknight @vimodkr]

Keeping these dates and time period as base:

1. Indus Valley/Harappa: Firmly 3300–1300 BCE (mainstream archaeology).

2. Ramayana (per Nilesh Oak & similar authors): ~12,209 BCE (core events).

3. Mahabharata (per Nilesh Oak & similar authors): 5561 BCE (Kurukshetra War).

I have few questions:
Ramayana and Mahabharata time periods are older than Indus valley civilizations. Both Ramayana and Mahabharata were written in Sanskrit Shlokas.
When i asked @grok it said, Ramayana and Mahabharata were written down only much later around 1st millennium BCE. But as per the oral traditions it is very much older than Indus.

1. My question is, even through oral traditions, both Ramayana and Mahabharata must have been transmitted orally through Sanskrit language only right?

2. If, not what language then?

3. If Sanskrit was used 'orally' for thousands of years ago before Indus civilization, then why is there no use of Sanskrit in Indus valley civilization? Why the seals are of some pictographic or logo-syllabic script?

4. Indus seals use pictographic or logo-syllabic script. What language did the Indus people actually speak?

5. There should be some continuation in Sanskrit language during Indus period, as Ramayana and Mahabarata Orally uses Sanskrit. But why there is none?

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@Anand_Venkatram Ramayana has not only Tantric yogic aspects, but also astronomical aspects. Anthropomostphism is cleverly used. Do check this article.
@yajnadevam
https://t.co/Y93HB4NMuI

[Darknight @vimodkr]

https://t.co/OcwfTpyzvg

Ramayana, an astronomical allegory ??
-From the age of Aries

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@gbalamurugan Okay. Then how was Sanskrit written ?

[Darknight @vimodkr]

Keeping these dates and time period as base:

1. Indus Valley/Harappa: Firmly 3300–1300 BCE (mainstream archaeology).

2. Ramayana (per Nilesh Oak & similar authors): ~12,209 BCE (core events).

3. Mahabharata (per Nilesh Oak & similar authors): 5561 BCE (Kurukshetra War).

I have few questions:
Ramayana and Mahabharata time periods are older than Indus valley civilizations. Both Ramayana and Mahabharata were written in Sanskrit Shlokas.
When i asked @grok it said, Ramayana and Mahabharata were written down only much later around 1st millennium BCE. But as per the oral traditions it is very much older than Indus.

1. My question is, even through oral traditions, both Ramayana and Mahabharata must have been transmitted orally through Sanskrit language only right?

2. If, not what language then?

3. If Sanskrit was used 'orally' for thousands of years ago before Indus civilization, then why is there no use of Sanskrit in Indus valley civilization? Why the seals are of some pictographic or logo-syllabic script?

4. Indus seals use pictographic or logo-syllabic script. What language did the Indus people actually speak?

5. There should be some continuation in Sanskrit language during Indus period, as Ramayana and Mahabarata Orally uses Sanskrit. But why there is none?

[Darknight @vimodkr]

There is a times period calculation in Kerala called 'Kolla Varsham'.
Most of early scriptures and manuscripts of kerala have been mentioned under Kolla varsham.
@yajnadevam @Anand_Venkatram

[History Hacked @history_hacked]

@Alba1White56 Yes, anything referring to an era that is, at most, 1100 years prior to today was written in relatively modern time and mostly refers to medieval events that were artificially backdated by 16-17 theologians.

[Darknight @vimodkr]

@Anand_Venkatram Real stories? Not fictional ?