@JackStone8814@Christendom1000@seethroughit2 I'm not sure which words of Jesus you're referring to. But the Gospel were indeed written by two eyewitnesses, the Apostles Matthew and John, and two close companions of Peter (Gospel of Mark) and Paul (Gospel of Luke). Simply put, Grok is wrong.
I have actually, but it untenable. Few quick reasons which you can research yourself.
1. Non-Christian corroboration. Josephus, a Jewish historian with no religious motive to invent a Christian figure, references Jesus and separately mentions James "the brother of Jesus called Christ" being executed. Tacitus, writing with open hostility toward Christians, still records Jesus' execution under Pilate as settled fact.
2. The martyrdom of witnesses. People will die for what they believe is true, even if they're wrong - but it's a different thing entirely to die for something you personally witnessed didn't happen. The apostles' willingness to be executed rather than recant their claimed encounters with the resurrected Jesus is hard to explain if there was no Jesus to build the claim around in the first place.
3. Scholarly consensus, including skeptics. This isn't a fringe position defended only by believers. Secular and even hostile historians of antiquity treat Jesus' basic historical existence as settled β the "mythicist" theory has essentially no traction in mainstream historical or biblical scholarship departments.
4. Better-attested than figures no one doubts. The surviving written accounts of Jesus are closer in time to his life than the surviving accounts of Hannibal or Alexander the Great, whose full histories were written centuries after they died. If that gap doesn't lead historians to doubt Hannibal's existence, it's inconsistent to apply the standard only to Jesus.
5. Read the words of Jesus himself. Search the Sermon on the Mount. Ask yourself if this seems like the words of a lunatic or liar. He also predicted that no stone of the jewish temple would be left standing, and the Romans tore it down in AD70.
Not quite what I said. I said he never referred to himself as a jew, meaning he never emphasised his jewishness, much like the modern jews of today and the enemies of the Church and the jews alike bring up often. He was indeed of jewish/hebrew lineage. My point is that He himself never emphasised race as the defining marker of what man ought to strive for, but holiness.
And John was written by John the apostle of Jesus, not Jesus himself.
Honestly the "White Europeans" framing doesn't even make sense for the 1200s. Nobody thought in those terms back then - you were Catholic, heretic, Orthodox, pagan, Muslim, or Jew, not race. Calling the Cathars or the Baltic pagans or the Byzantines "White Europeans" being wiped out by a foreign religion is just backdating a modern racial category onto people who didn't use it.
Ugly power politics dressed in religious language was basically every war from that era. It's not evidence Christianity is somehow anti-European.
Read on Pius V and Lepanto - see how he, through the Rosary, held back the Ottomans from taking over Europe. Nothing anti-White anti-European about that.
No issue there - Jesus, the Son of God who when referring to himself never called himself a jew, but the Son of Man, chose, as was his prerogative to be incarnated through the Hebrew bloodline of David. Salvation aka Jesus Christ, thus indeed came from the jews.
Not due to their virtues (or lack thereof), their specialness, or inherent traits, but due to Christ's choice that perhaps, even the greatest could come from the lowliest.
Not quite, because Vatican 2 was not defined as a dogmatic council, so ambiguities or supposed contradictions with past teachings may be doubted without being a schismatic. The promises made to the jews are always extended to them, provided they recognise Jesus as Lord.
Said promises are fulfilled in Jesus, and only those are who part of the body of Christ are heirs to them. Those who reject Christ are cut off from Him and what is promised to these poor souls are weeping and gnashing of teeth.
While you live, investigate the claims of Christ and his Church seriously with objectivity. The claims are so outrageous it makes Jesus either a liar, lunatic, or Lord. You will have to come to that conclusion yourself and live with the consequences, but if you believe there is a God, pray for grace to find and recognise the truth.
Nope, my brother. Jews *were* chosen to receive the knowledge of God and to spread the Gospel, but they rejected and killed Christ. God's people now are those who recognise the Christ, ie the Church. Nostra Aetate was co-opted by a Gregory Baum, a covert jew priest who left and "married" a man after making his contribution to this document. How else do they do battle? Subversion.
The OG Saint on the jq was St. John Chrysostom.
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It's a massive problem, that's for sure. Personally, I think the Church is being used as cover by the chosen ones (HIAS etc), although there are definitely leftist factions in the Church hierarchy pushing this bs as well.
Traditional Catholicism has never been for such agendas, I mean look at the crusades. Thousands died to keep the invaders at bay; now they are welcomed with open arms. We can thank freemasonic infiltration of nations and the Church for this, including the French and American revolutions.
We disagree on the reason this is happening though. Not to fill pews - let's be real, these aren't "paying customers", if you want to be cynical about it. It's about destroying the West from within, breaking down nations, replacing natives, breaking down families and attacking children, the future of society. When has this not been the aim of the usual suspects and their puppets, the freemasons?
@JackStone8814@Christendom1000@seethroughit2 Nope. Universal ark of salvation for all of humanity. Not jew worship, but worship of the Son of God, judge of you and me.
Also, the star of David is neither Christian nor Israelite but the star of remphan, and the modern state of Israel is demonic at best.
1. You should be Catholic.
2. Modern Judaism is rabbinic/talmudic Judaism and it is not at all the same religion as the old religion of the Israelites. That religion worshipped Jesus as well.
3. Catholicism actually while permitting, does not promote race mixing as it makes marriages more difficult to sustain.
4. Just as Jesus proved himself by miracles, God proves the Catholic faith by miracles like Fatima, Lourdes, Padre Pio.
5. If pagan gods are false gods, that's all they simply are. Don't get mad that your ancestors didn't get everything right from the beginning.
6. If you pray the Rosary, you will find the truth.
Ok bro.
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"a passionate encounter with Jesus told to me by a sixteen-year-old teenager. βI caress your face, Jesus, and I reach your mouth. [...] I caress your lips, and in an unprecedented impulse of tenderness you allow me to kiss them softly. [...] Then I caress your delicate legs, which seem to me perfectly sculpted columns, full of strength and vitality. I caress them, I kiss them...β. (p. 59; 61-62)."