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Founder of inferer - first ever decentralized ads protocol in web3

Cofounder@Aube
Team Lead@Bytedance
Business Lead@Xiaohongshu

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We're so excited to announce that inferer has published Inferer Airdrop Protocol whitepaper officially. It's the first ever decentralized crypto airdrop protocol, which is based on uniswap, targeted on web3 airdrop(advertisement) and created new possibilities on airdrop.🥳🥳

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@brucexu_eth 支持ethlabs, 长期看确实应该有多个foundation. 如果能更加速可靠地迭代协议的升级，就很好。长期看，协议固化应该是最核心的点

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@chenmo 同时，对于说承载大量价值并不一定就是市值高，举出纳斯达克类似的例子，但纳斯达克是政府和法律在做最后的保障，说到底也是全体纳税人一起支撑

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@chenmo 还是想问大家一个问题，如果稳定币以太坊上超过1万亿市值，或者以太坊上股票超过1万亿市值，你觉得以太坊的市值多少合适？按质押三分之一投票算三千亿作为基线够吗，不算其他存储价值、defi抵押品类价值

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@longwinsk 那你觉得未来数字经济价值会落在什么样的基础设施呢？我很好奇。如果你指的是一些对现有金融设施的联盟链包装然后号称这是未来，我觉得这比eth还不如

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@KyleSamani @joechalom I don’t really think he should do a debate with someone who left this industry at hard times and occasionally comes back when there’s benefits for his related entity. Everytime you stands up like a hero it seems there’s some calculation in your mind. It’s just not the first time

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@brucexu_eth 疑问是过去几年不一直在做扶持等壮大后让它离开的策略吗，重点是ef本身没有多少资源可以推动这个事，效果也没多好，切换到现在底线先说清楚然后再偶尔用用本就不多的资源去支持一下，看最后效果如何吧

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@AvgJoesCrypto Agree

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@jocyiosg 大家一起互相加油

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我也重视去中心化的，你可以看我主页一直强调去中心化。但我觉得共识才是本质，同时去中心化是公链这种基础设施的核心价值体现。

Bitcoin 应该是全球共识价值存储，类似黄金。你提到让那几百万个给黑客就完，重点是完不了，技术一定是一直发展的，随着量子计算机的发展攻击成本越来越低，大众都会担心bitcoin不安全，那这再去中心化都救不回来。当然也意味着bitcoin可能也需要持续迭代。所以bitcoin的本质是共识，这个不能轻易削弱，就像黄金其实根本做不了大多数人的避险资产，一打战不能带走还容易被低价回收，但共识的强大让国家间层面认可

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No. Bitcoin should be secured by consensus or global consensus. Cryptography is the tool. Tech is always evolving and if you want to be digital gold, you can’t reply on specific version of tech. Tech should always be upgradable and people should not treat this as a problem. It’s a bug that should get fixed. The concern that every one scared of qc then not trusting bitcoin is the bigger problem. We should have many solutions at least not fewer than banks. In the bottom line bitcoin core devs could easily stand out and say relaxed and if that happened we could fork to protect people’s assets. It definitely shouldn’t evolve like current part which everyone is sacred which hurts the most important consensus.

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我就非常不懂这个逻辑。去中心化应该是个准确的价值体现不是混沌的理想虚无的框。底层共识应该是property rights吧。那哪家property rights会让你实时面对黑客的风险呢？不让黑客黑就不去中心化吗？关于如果mstr 被盗用，一样不会冻结黑客而是会fork出新的，共识才最重要吧。就像现在你还用btc cash吗？人类的共识才最重要。

几百万个币砸盘，现在可不是几年前了，就像人年轻可以随便失败年长很难承担一样，现在btc这么大体量砸下去那不是开玩笑呢，以后也别玩了，不是每个行业都那么幸运有每次重来的机会。如果到时现有的链一直受黑客的威胁导致大众失去共识根本不信任btc，然后fork出冻结方案以及把这些币拿来作为pow rewards，mstr支持，同时在那个受量子威胁的原链都卖了，直接砸到几百可能都不到，你说大多数人会跟随哪条呢

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@mreiffy Crypto community already takes this seriously so no need to fud anymore. In the bottom line, sailor can choose the fork that disable satoshi like address and even use this as mining rewards. Bitcoin is always about consensus not about rewards to hackers

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@hosseeb Crypto community already takes this seriously so no need to fud anymore. In the bottom line, sailor can choose the fork that disable satoshi like address and even use this as mining rewards. Bitcoin is always about consensus not about rewards to hackers

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@mert Crypto community already takes this seriously so no need to fud anymore. In the bottom line, sailor can choose the fork that disable satoshi like address and even use this as mining rewards. Bitcoin is always about consensus not about rewards to hackers

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Last market structure bill draft encouraged activity based yield like defi aave and forbids yield through passive holding or similar money market fund. It actually make senses. Coinbase is so against this and block the bill and now trying to convince others to join criticizing banks because banks treated general users poorly in the past. But I don’t get why our industry kols advocate stable coins yields so much. Clarity is much more important than this. Is cex exchange what we are pursuing for? If that’s the case I believe the small left builders are even accerating leaving.

In a bigger picture, it’s similar to deposits. Only when you decided to stand with coinbase, you would dig these tiny things further and trying to make yourself more convincing. But banks won’t give a shit to this. They know clearly what this is about. They would clearly say no. Now president stands out to make the statement. But we’re seeing polymarket possibility getting lower. President statement is last shot. If it didn’t work, basically this bill is gone. And we’re still trying to involve people to join criticizing banks. Banks wouldn’t change idea unless there’s some other deals which balance their loss. Nobody would do a total loss trade. You would never buy a broken car even your parents force you.

And the real issue is what did we lose when we’re spending so much time defending a cex. The clarity bill. It’s simply gone. And we’re going to have an even tougher incoming year. Is that affordable? And is that cex really worth our fighting? Cex is not bitcoin, guys! Don’t even mention when cex grows dominant, defi would shrink. Cex only cares about trading profits. Industry actually took lots of fund and behave weak and part of the reason is that out most profitable entities in industry tether and binance. One is buying gold and conduct various investments to other industries. The other one keeps launching memes and buying their own security tokens. They’re not investing back into crypto industry. Meanwhile nvidia keeps pouring the capital back into ai industry. Not mentioning other giants issuing bonds to invest into industry. Crypto industry really needs to grasp opportunity and concentrate the force together. Advocate for bitcoin, ethereum, solana and more, not cex.

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Last market structure bill draft encouraged activity based yield like defi aave and forbids yield through passive holding or similar money market fund. It actually make senses. Coinbase is so against this and block the bill and now trying to convince others to join criticizing banks because banks treated general users poorly in the past. But I don’t get why our industry kols advocate stable coins yields so much. Clarity is much more important than this. Is cex exchange what we are pursuing for? If that’s the case I believe the small left builders are even accerating leaving.

In a bigger picture, it’s similar to deposits. Only when you decided to stand with coinbase, you would dig these tiny things further and trying to make yourself more convincing. But banks won’t give a shit to this. They know clearly what this is about. They would clearly say no. Now president stands out to make the statement. But we’re seeing polymarket possibility getting lower. President statement is last shot. If it didn’t work, basically this bill is gone. And we’re still trying to involve people to join criticizing banks. Banks wouldn’t change idea unless there’s some other deals which balance their loss. Nobody would do a total loss trade. You would never buy a broken car even your parents force you.

And the real issue is what did we lose when we’re spending so much time defending a cex. The clarity bill. It’s simply gone. And we’re going to have an even tougher incoming year. Is that affordable? And is that cex really worth our fighting? Cex is not bitcoin, guys! Don’t even mention when cex grows dominant, defi would shrink. Cex only cares about trading profits. Industry actually took lots of fund and behave weak and part of the reason is that out most profitable entities in industry tether and binance. One is buying gold and conduct various investments to other industries. The other one keeps launching memes and buying their own security tokens. They’re not investing back into crypto industry. Meanwhile nvidia keeps pouring the capital back into ai industry. Not mentioning other giants issuing bonds to invest into industry. Crypto industry really needs to grasp opportunity and concentrate the force together. Advocate for bitcoin, ethereum, solana and more, not cex.

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@chenmo 行业如果从一开始就这么发展会好很多，本来crypto如果能融入现有体系已经很好了，指望通过政策干掉银行银行怎么可能答应呢。defi 还有一些可能呢。融入现有金融系统也已经进行了很久了，现在也应该继续发挥defi 原有crypto的优势，转过头来可能大家还是发现c端现在需要一起发力吧

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Last market structure bill draft encouraged activity based yield like defi aave and forbids yield through passive holding or similar money market fund. It actually make senses. Coinbase is so against this and block the bill and now trying to convince others to join criticizing banks because banks treated general users poorly in the past. But I don’t get why our industry kols advocate stable coins yields so much. Clarity is much more important than this. Is cex exchange what we are pursuing for? If that’s the case I believe the small left builders are even accerating leaving.

In a bigger picture, it’s similar to deposits. Only when you decided to stand with coinbase, you would dig these tiny things further and trying to make yourself more convincing. But banks won’t give a shit to this. They know clearly what this is about. They would clearly say no. Now president stands out to make the statement. But we’re seeing polymarket possibility getting lower. President statement is last shot. If it didn’t work, basically this bill is gone. And we’re still trying to involve people to join criticizing banks. Banks wouldn’t change idea unless there’s some other deals which balance their loss. Nobody would do a total loss trade. You would never buy a broken car even your parents force you.

And the real issue is what did we lose when we’re spending so much time defending a cex. The clarity bill. It’s simply gone. And we’re going to have an even tougher incoming year. Is that affordable? And is that cex really worth our fighting? Cex is not bitcoin, guys! Don’t even mention when cex grows dominant, defi would shrink. Cex only cares about trading profits. Industry actually took lots of fund and behave weak and part of the reason is that out most profitable entities in industry tether and binance. One is buying gold and conduct various investments to other industries. The other one keeps launching memes and buying their own security tokens. They’re not investing back into crypto industry. Meanwhile nvidia keeps pouring the capital back into ai industry. Not mentioning other giants issuing bonds to invest into industry. Crypto industry really needs to grasp opportunity and concentrate the force together. Advocate for bitcoin, ethereum, solana and more, not cex.

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No one cares about corpo chain. If our industry really chooses this way, it’s ok for part of us to leave. That new financial system doesn’t make much difference with old ones. Why waste builder’s time on this? They can have amazing marketing and hope they’re doing great. It’s just none of some builders’ business.

For crypto infrastructure, I still prefer the idea that trustless/decentralization/permissionless is the hard part to build. These things are the points that bears values. We usually need to get the hard part in the first place other than putting that later. If we put that core values later, it’s highly possible that it wouldn’t get achieved in the end.

All the best to tempo