Julian Keller

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@mglsite @N_Erickson23 @NoContextBrits You have to factor in purchasing power parity and hours worked per year

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex The brain is a neural net with weights that reinforce patterns. AI is a neural net with weights that reinforce patterns.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex I agree with everything except the word "appear" and the words after "rather". Our brain is fundamentally probabilistic pattern generation. Why would patterns not be the understanding? Non sequitur. What's the falsifiable criteria between the real thing and the appearance of it?

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex It's not the definition of intelligence, but yes, one implementation. It's also how your brain works. With neural net weights and reinforcement. You can't predict the next token of an answer you never trained on without understanding the world. Those patterns are intelligence.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex They are intelligent. They do have personalities. I don't know if they're conscious, but totally plausible. I never said that they're not intelligent. I didn't contradict myself.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex That I don't know if it's sentient but that it is totally plausible. Why not? Because it's not based on carbon atoms? Why would carbon atoms determine consciousness?

Give me a single example of a misidentified fallacy.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Appeal to consensus fallacy. Second, that's the consensus among non-philosophers mostly. Do you know what that consensus is based on? If yes, then you could just provide that evidence.

Exactly, no consensus on sentience. I was right. Yes, the definition is agreed upon.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Intelligent output requires actual intelligence. AI output is mostly extremely intelligent. Therefore AI has to actually be intelligent. And again, you are giving no falsifiable criteria of why it would be emulation. You're just claiming it ipse dixit. You need evidence.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Babies are designed to emulate adults. Copying something doesn't make it artificial when it's then used by what copied it. Non sequitur. Personality requires intelligence? That proves my point. Intelligence cannot in fact be simulated.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Oh my god. 4th time now. I don't think that. I don't think that. I don't think that. Is it registering now? That is not my position. I don't think that.

The second thing is ignoratio elenchi.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex You seriously think there is a consensus about the hard problem of consciousness? 💀💀💀

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex I am not claiming almost anything you said here, except the personality part. Everything else is you making that up about what I claim. Which is why I said hollow man fallacy. Show me where I claimed that. If I'm just doubting your ideas I have no burden of proof. Consensus? 💀

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Ignoratio elenchi. The fact that it's disturbing is true but irrelevant to the argument. Disturbing things can be true.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Ad hominem and hollow man fallacy. And you seem to not wanna engage with my points about life. Oh and burden of proof fallacy.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@tysxlamm @KineticElle @Pontifex Your brain does math with electricity. And your answer is just pure ipse dixit.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@tysxlamm @KineticElle @Pontifex Matrix multiplication. Lots of parallel math, not explicit lines of code.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Wait, you actually think life is some magical essence? As opposed to the sum of the chemical reactions of a system? You think a dead human body could have the exact same chemical reactions as a living person? Talk and walk around but not be alive?

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Why would it require sentience? They absolutely do differ in how nice they are, how curious, how playful, some are trained to have a romantic side and be your gf.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@EuroPaladin @KineticElle @Pontifex Ipse dixit. You think death is when some magical soul leaves your body? It's a change in chemistry that stops the usual functionality. Same with a GPU.

[Julian Keller @wise_pepe_]

@PaulOGamer235 @CoTuSieOdbywa @KineticElle @Pontifex What hormones do is they move electrons around. Electrons are moved around in a GPU too. Nerves same thing, moving electrons. Show me the relevant difference, not arbitrary unrelated differences. And you did the argument from ignorance fallacy too.