@ClintonThought@enemenemuh_kuh@hellraiser0081 i mean they didn't want the war in 1914, but they did want a war, just slightly later when the Russian buildup they helped with had finalized. also, if Russia wasn't assisted with industrialisation by the french the war likely wouldn't have happened when it did
@alcazar1975840@Zoldy95@me_ne_freg0@MartinSauerbrey influence that other great powers had, and they likely wouldn't have went to war if they had their demands accepted. basically if they didnt set the line for the sovereignty concessions, then they would have had a legitimacy crisis and likely fallen apart
@alcazar1975840@Zoldy95@me_ne_freg0@MartinSauerbrey two things: one, the ultimatum was designed to be harsh, because serbia had failed(in their eyes) to prosecute the black hand rather then a deliberate attempt for war, two, while germany wanted war, austria hungary's ultimatum was a way of establishing that they still had
@PaperhackWriter@SeunA86103425@MartinSauerbrey yeah but germany almost definitely wins the stalemate long term, cause there is no way france can hold it all off by itself and without the naval blockade starving germany out
@Jake449764946@joelpollak cause the oil you guys do have is now going to other countries, and because they are willing to pay more than it was at before, if you want to buy it you have to match or go higher than them
@PillarOfWamuu@SUPPORT5THGEN in the long term however it can have a major effect in a conventional war, if we use pre cold war, WW1s british blockade was a huge factor in the death toll, and undoubtedly had a major effect on germany sueing for peace
@PillarOfWamuu@SUPPORT5THGEN the ethical value is a case by case basis, and strategically it is a gamble, because a blockade of food in the short term demonises you against the citizens and for most insurgencies (which is the primary form of war against the US and other western countries) just helps them
@PillarOfWamuu@SUPPORT5THGEN I say those were bad because even though the blockade, especially the oil blockade, was crucial to destroying the axis powers, a food blockade still incurs heavy civilian loss that couldve theoretically been avoided
@PillarOfWamuu@SUPPORT5THGEN i mean those were bad, but I dont really think we should be using WW2 and before era wars to compare to modern day rules of engagement, and also in a way a blockade is still different than the burning of someones farms, because you can remove a blockade but you cant unburn farms
@da_goyim_knows @Noahpinion couple things, one it has been attacked by one of enemies, and two, supporting it means russia has less resources if they went to war with us, without the disadvantages of being at war yourself. its the same reason that russia and china are willing to aid iran rn with the US
@9mmScorpion the idea for the "paid in chinese yuan" is that they needed their money to buy equipment from china during wartime. now if there is a peace deal then it is better to use the toll to boost your dollar. basically it was only yuan for arms and aid imports during war
@PillarOfWamuu@SUPPORT5THGEN its a bad thing generally because civilians are the ones that operate and feed themselves from the farms, and civilians should never be the enemy
@CameronCorduroy i think its so oman might help enforce the toll, since they are on the other side of the strait. also for the legitimacy of the toll since most other tolled sea passages are only owned by one country
@Dullturdsslayer@zei_squirrel I mean Israel had the best air defense out of all the Gulf countries, and hitting the GCC did kill quite a lot of expensive equipment that the US would prefer to have for china, so it's not that crazy that they went for them
@JustServal @PakiSwift maybe, but also russia would probably love to have more influence in europe, and also they might get higher quality of living in russia but idk