@scalleysregime@GenUnDialectic@_johnleone Fair enough. I do think byu has come a long way when it comes to how they handle the honor code. Much more spirit of the law now which can open them up to more scrutiny but I think is the right way. Obviously it’ll never be perfect but step in the right direction.
@ronstallworth22@SportsGuyRyan I think that’s my main point, that the vast majority of these honor code cases (again assuming innocence here, doesn’t apply otherwise) we never hear about, both with athletes and non-athletes. So we don’t really know how they are all handled.
Either way appreciate the dialogue
@ronstallworth22@SportsGuyRyan I’ll start by saying I’d be surprised if he isn’t suspended for any games. At this point I’ll still be surprised if he even plays. But you don’t know that’s how all these situations have been handled in the past because most of these cases are handled behind closed doors.
@ronstallworth22@SportsGuyRyan Like what do you expect from this? It is a case by case basis that has evolved a lot over the past decade plus. But with you guys by is dammed if they do dammed if they don’t. Used to be too strict and letter of the law. Now it’s too “lenient”, whatever that means.
@ronstallworth22@SportsGuyRyan And what is his punishment? For all we know (assuming he is innocent. Obviously big if) he has gone through the repentance process with his ecclesiastical leader already. Literally hundreds of students who break the honor code are handled this way.
@ronstallworth22@SportsGuyRyan Well duh. Hence the whole “humans” thing. People screw up. You new here? Glad you can be the unbiased source of reason though. Super helpful!
@scalleysregime@GenUnDialectic@_johnleone if he's innocent none of that applies. he wasn't endowed when this happened. so if it was consensual then none of that would apply.
@_johnleone@ResPubAmericana Maybe do even the smallest amount of research to understand how the honor code is applied to students? Therein lies your answer.