@Leaflit I once thought "hypocrisy and inconsistency is all they have" when actually taking the time to put thought towards the beliefs and value systems. It keeps happening 😂
@SonicDramaDaily@TheFinalMasterM Not just "no" but the absolute opposite in fact. You have to personally collect images.
AI works by scanning the dataset images and learning the patterns, in a nutshell. It's more complex than that but that's the simple version from what i undrstand
@ItsRaisu@Leaflit That's a very poor argument btw. Consciousness as in awareness of themselves.
Heart/brain activity starts around 5 weeks so personally my cut off is there. After that, I can't think of a reason to defend it. I feel like most people can find out and make a decision in that time
@ItsRaisu@Leaflit Well no contraception is 100%, so it would be a factor as well. The logical conclusion here is that couples cant have sex
Consciousness, brain/heart activity, a lot of factors to it but we're limited on space. Lot of nuance that can't be fit into such a small reply box.
100% this. We're on the same side.Purity testing like this is what has slowly been eating the left. Why repeat their mistake? Why not just agree to disagree and move on?
Shit like this is what makes me lean more towards the "political horseshoe theory" tbh.
On the topic of the @powdury discourse specifically on abortion:
People will disagree with you on stuff and that’s fine. That’s something we can debate and convince each other on. Humility is a virtue that forges the strongest ideas.
But remember… free thinkers are not a monolith and unless we want to become like the left with their endless purity spirals… we have to form coalitions on the battlefield.
Wars are won through people sharing common cause… and isolating ourselves will only make it easier to conquer us.
Don’t let the people who disagree with you on 20% of things distract you from the people who disagree with you on 100% of things.
Basically… discourse strengthens our ideas, but the majority of our energy should be spent on the enemy in front of us that literally wants us dead, our women raped and children brainwashed while they laugh at it.
@Leaflit@powdury We have seen how these purity tests destroy the left from within. Why are people so eager to repeat their mistake?
This is what I was trying to tell people. We can disagree on things and that's fine but this infighting only hurts our cause. Fuck the purity test bs.
@StrayRoyal@FraHarrelson yeah, i dont think they understand this stuff at all. we need people in power who understand this shit cuz this is an awful precedent.
@AlfieSm46789814@DeltaGundam01@Berry_Bigot explain why real pedos dont like loli then? in case you cant, easy: its not real and its not of kids.
you help pedos when you water down the word pedo btw. quit helping pedos. that makes you just as bad.
@Leaflit that said, i can’t think of a justification past the point of brain/heart activity. i think 5 weeks is a fair timeframe and reasonably humane. without a brain, it lacks a system to feel pain as well. seems like a fair compromise to me at leaat
@Leaflit There are cases where it's not hedonism and the birth control failed. What about the couple who would be financially in dire straits if they had a baby in this economy? There's no evidence that fetus has consciousness so I don't see it as a bad thing. Is what it is tbh
@1PlayersPassion@Leaflit i don’t believe that’s true. it sounds like you’re coming to the table with bad faith already though, maybe thats part of your issue?
@ChadJoh51872429@yukiwaru_ i cant even remember when it hit me tbh. i think that 5 weeks is where id personally cut it off bc by them the heart/brain activity has started. i feel like that’s a reasonable time frame as well tbh
@JagTheHero@yukiwaru_ heart/brain activity starts around 5 weeks. i think after that, it becomes immensely more difficult to defend it
I have never been pregnant and never will be, but I imagine that five weeks is a wide enough timeframe that you would know by then and have had made a decision, yk?
>Learn basic psychology
>Connect dots earlier than everyone else
>"you're crazy, aint no way that's true"
>yrs later
>scientific studies say i was right
Call me crazy. Idc anymore. Knowing I'm right in so many of these situations just gives me enough smug satisfaction atp.