@gonergnostic i think triple trucies got weakened since carol was able to "investigate the shelter", would the knight be fine with an outsider entering their domain and snooping around? i feel like the knight and carol have to at least be on the same page even if a future betrayal might happen
@gonergnostic i think asgore knew that the ch5 dw was being made because he looked at carols board, he says "i need to look again" i think he was preparing to face the dw and find out answers, carol isnt stupid though so i think she let him access her room on purpose to get him in the dw
@gonergnostic i think this is also how gaster will just be handled on both routes, on the main route he's the eldritch god who made the prophecy, on wr hes "the guy from undertale" all roads leading to an inevitable confrontation (one more meta and the other more fan service 666 stats)
@tinyhater on his backstory while also giving us the fanon gaster fight with 666 stats we've all been wanting, i think the main route will have a gaster fight too as the final boss but more meta and very janky if i had to guess
@tinyhater also on the topic of toby locking things behind routes, i feel like he genuinely might do this with gasters more undertale based backstory and the weird route, with us going nowhere and all that, i feel like main route gaster will be more eldritch while the wr elaborates-
@Humerusskelly oh my god wait is this the Michael afton is the crying child guy??? i've seen them before, anyways this is a very fair reason to have a grudge its all good
@Humerusskelly you say this like kris knight was only wrong in terms of title and not the actual theories message, they have made 3 of the games 5 main fountains (sorry if i'm being annoying okay its just kris knight isn't as bad as like fucking alvin knight)
@gonergnostic at some point i'd like to do a thread on chapter 6 info because there's so many holiday correlated smoking guns that have yet to be fired, toby might as well run an armory, its to the point where i think ch6 will just have two dws (manor hospital)
@gonergnostic on the topic of this though, chapter 4 has setup for "code darkners" so i def feel like desses guitar would be a major darkner in a manor dw
@tinyhater i don't think he will be mad, rather i think WE will push him for a fight, the fact that its heavily implied we went nowhere and also all of the side b stuff reminding me of the b button in ebhh, i think its gonna be a can you kill god type deal
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@yumeni_kasuga@gonergnostic i also find the stuff with orange very interesting, there's a lot of animal symbolism in general when it comes to the flowers which i think ties into kris's want to be a monster (specifically a dog it seems)