@Louise681145@Roserat_SS@Hollybarrgirl@EssexPR 😂 Fair enough, the “brown ones” comment was aimed at someone else. Unlike you, I can admit when I’ve misread something. So we agree: proper vetting and detention until checks are complete. Fuck me, that was a lot of waffle to discover we agree, hun. 😂
@Louise681145@Roserat_SS@Hollybarrgirl@EssexPR 😂 So after accusing me of “only caring about brown ones”, you now agree people should be properly vetted and detained until those checks are complete. Brilliant. We agree then. Could’ve saved yourself all that “racist” bollocks and just said that in the first place, hun. 🤡
@Louise681145@Roserat_SS@Hollybarrgirl@EssexPR Ah, the racism card because the argument ran out. I care about every victim and every offender, regardless of colour. Wanting proper checks on who enters the country isn’t “persecuting brown men”. Innocent people deserve protection, including the people already living here, hun.
@EESprite@EssexPR@Louise681145 So by your own argument Britain already has a serious problem with sexual offenders, yet you object to tighter controls on who enters the country? Why would anyone oppose screening out additional criminals and sex offenders? Protecting people here should come first.
@EESprite@EssexPR@Louise681145 Fuck me, the goalposts are on wheels. Your table shows defendants proceeded against in 2023. It doesn’t prove the ethnicity of “most nonces”, conviction rates, sentencing, or your random Cambodia claim. That’s FOUR conclusions you’ve invented from data that says none of them.
@HumzaYousaf “9/11 terror attacks.” Any chance of finishing the sentence, Humza? Al-Qaeda. Islamist terrorists. 19 hijackers. Nearly 3,000 murdered. It’s remarkable how difficult those details become for some people to type. You’re fucking diabolical.
You didn’t “remember” 9/11. You sanitised it.
Nineteen al-Qaeda hijackers murdered nearly 3,000 people in an act of Islamic terrorism. They invoked the Koran and Islamic teachings to justify mass murder. Whether their interpretation of Islam was legitimate is irrelevant to the historical fact that religion formed an explicit part of their justification for what they did.
Yet you reduced all of that to “terror attacks”, without naming al-Qaeda or acknowledging the ideology and religious justification of the men who carried them out.
You have no difficulty naming far-right extremism or Islamophobia when those things are relevant. But on the anniversary of an atrocity committed by Islamic extremists, suddenly the identity and motivation of the perpetrators disappear from the description.
Naming Islamic terrorism is not an attack on Muslims. It does not imply collective responsibility, any more than naming another form of religious or political extremism condemns everyone associated with the wider belief system.
Nearly 3,000 people were murdered on 11 September 2001. Honouring them does not require sanitising why they were murdered.
Say who did it. Say what motivated them. Remember the history as well as the victims.
@Homeengineered@Hollybarrgirl@Louise681145@EssexPR 😂 “I was well aware.” Sure you were. That’s why you’ve spent several replies rewriting what you meant. Now it’s memes and insults because your argument collapsed. You’re not schooling anyone, you’re reversing out of a hedge. 🤡
@Louise681145@Britvixtrix@Hollybarrgirl@EssexPR “Wary of all men” while demanding we ignore concerns about unvetted men entering illegally is quite the contradiction. Nobody said British men can’t be dangerous. Prosecute every rapist here, and don’t knowingly add unnecessary risks from abroad. It really isn’t complicated.
@EESprite@EssexPR@Louise681145 😂 Nobody’s defending nonces. I’d happily see every child abuser burnt at the stake, whatever their colour. You made a specific statistical claim your table doesn’t prove. Screaming “nonce defender” because someone points that out just makes you look fucking ridiculous.
@OperaSocialist 😂 Yes, because wearing a medical mask during a pandemic to reduce infection is obviously identical to turning up to a protest in a balaclava so nobody can identify you. Fucking Einstein over here.
@EESprite@EssexPR@Louise681145 😂 Nobody’s making excuses for nonces, you absolute weapon. Rape being a type of CSA doesn’t turn an ALL-CSA table into rape statistics. Your table still doesn’t prove your “per-capita rape” claim. Stop hiding behind insults and read your own fucking evidence.
@Gillian_Mackay1 That’s not how climate attribution works. Fossil fuels contribute to warming, yes. But pretending every North Sea drilling licence can be directly blamed for specific wildfires and deaths isn’t climate science — it’s political theatre.
@owenjonesjourno “Millions killed” — there you go again. Your figure includes millions of estimated indirect deaths, not millions killed by Western forces. Criticise the wars all you like, but repeatedly stripping the methodology from your own source isn’t analysis. It’s propaganda.
@owenjonesjourno Shameless. Brown’s 4.6m figure is NOT “people killed by US-led forces.” It includes millions of estimated indirect deaths from disease, malnutrition and damaged infrastructure. If you have to misrepresent your own source, your argument is fucked.
@SurfSoul1@imad_karr1@NYCMayor And without the British and French, there might not have been an independent USA to “save” anyone. 😂 France bankrolled their Revolution while Britain supplied the enemy. History’s a bit more complicated than Hollywood, mate.
@NYCMayor Yes, New Yorkers should never forget. Including the disgusting scenes in Palestine of people celebrating while nearly 3,000 innocent people lay dead. Never forget means NEVER forget.
@PhilipProudfoot@AmichaiChikli You can support Palestinian freedom AND oppose Hamas, Islamism and attempts to impose religious law in Britain. Those positions aren’t contradictory. Pretending every criticism of Islamism is somehow an argument against Palestinians is intellectually lazy.
@JohnCleese Every government has a duty to protect the public. If it knowingly allows more people to enter and remain without adequate checks or enforcement, it can’t shrug its shoulders when preventable crimes follow. Women, children and men here deserve protection too.