@TheGhostSleepi1@Pr0bP0stL1b My Caribbean family are far more active in civic and cultural life. I was the only mixed race / non white guy in a Cornish village in the middle of no where and it simply wasn’t a big deal. The issue is allowing enough people in to form enclaves.
@ItsTaz1989 Hard paternalism, and massive investment into cultural institutions. Indoctrinate is a word that liberals find scary, but it’s what needs to happen.
@ItsTaz1989 I think what will be funny is that the first census taken with these label will probably show that a little amount of the ethnic populace will identify with such labels and probably just stick to [] British, the only people I see really wanting to be called English 1/2
@monachus_iners Any traditionalist would say that Apostolicae Curae is dogmatic, which poses a real problem for Rome. AC is just donatism, and probably invalidates New Rite orders.
@LimeyEvil55588@Emma506131772 The best way to measure this is to walk into your local Catholic Society at University, I assure you it won’t be filled with people without accents.
@LimeyEvil55588@Emma506131772 I was recieved through RCIA, I was the only Gen Z without an accent. And for every person joining, 8 are leaving. The quiet revival is a myth
@monachus_iners Even the moderate liturgies in the Lutheran tradition like some of the LCMS ones are still theologically something, the mass of Paul VI just sucks. I guess it’s closest comparison is common worship but that’s specifically penned to have no churchmanship
@monachus_iners Well I’m not sure about that really, High Church Lutheran liturgies are far better ( the Swedish liturgy) and reformed liturgies are far better (whether that be a low BCP or any of Calvin’s), Paul VI is uniquely soulless, and theologically doesn’t reflect anyone. It’s horrendous
@ElijahForCA Anglicans are Protestants, we became Protestant to be more perfectly Catholic. Benediction is just a Roman import, no warrant for it whatsoever
@E76789702E@cath_menarion What do you mean there’s no such things as Old Catholic orders? That’s objectively false, there are Catholics who split from the Roman church at the first Vatican council, their orders are recognised and Fr Calvin has them.
@monachus_iners If you’re interested in vernacular mass, this is an Anglican translation of the Tridentine Mass into BCP English, a few churches still celebrate it but it was sort’ve a papalist fad. Still very interesting.
https://t.co/XS1PJIOhzj?