If Ukraine is controlling Ukraine, what's the protest that overthrow the democratic elected president all about, what's the reason for the protest?
Why does Ukraine wants to join EU?
The protest was sponsored, there is evidence in that so you can't claim Ukraine is controlling Ukraine. The people that sponsored the protest are the people controlling Ukraine.
The Crimea people are very happy to be with Russia, they are not complaining since they joined Russia.
I'm sure you are happy now that Ukraine is destroying their infrastructure to make life unbearable to them.
If Ukraine cares for the Crimea people, they won't be making life unbearable to them. This is a reason to show that the people in Ukraine is another ethnic group from the people ruling in Ukraine
@JohnFarren15@NegroniMaurizio@McFaul Can you tell me how many years Ukraine imposed economic restrictions on Donbass if the intension was not to destroy them?
If you have a problem with someone, and both of you where called for peace.
After negotiations, and both of you agreed on what to do for peace to reign. And then, the person after few days, months, years, delays and starts saying he/she can't fulfill his side of the bargain/agreement, will you be clapping for the person for refusing to fulfil the peace agreement for whatever reason.
Won't you look for help to fight for your right.
Donbass demanded for special status, autonomy and it was agreed in Minsk, France, Uk, Germany were witness in the peace deal
Why did Ukraine government refuse to fulfil the agreement if they truly want peace, rather they imposed economic restrictions which is similar to total destruction of the region?
Ukraine banned anything related to Russia culture and language.
I heard some people were built to death because they were ethnic Russians.
You ask about if there is evidence of mass killings, as long as EU is in support of whatever they do, the information won't be available because western media will not write about it.
Do a research and see that people were built to death in Odessa for protesting against the Ukraine government.
Is there any mass killings evidence you want , if people can be burnt to death and government does nothing
You keep on running away from the truth by mentioning Putin.
What causes the overthrow of the Ukraine government which is from Donbass?
What was the peace agreement in Minsk?
Why did Ukraine government impose economic restrictions on Donbass if not to starve all of them to death?
Why didn't EU urge Ukraine to lift the economic restrictions?
Donbass and some other Ukraine regions have different ideologies, Russia didn't commit worst crime than NATO by coming to their aid.
One of the major problems in this world is that EU believes that they are the only people that can offer help to people. They believe that they are the only people that determines who lives or dies.
You blockaded a region for years without any human sympathy, give them autonomy you said no, give them independence you said no, so the aim is for them to be a slave forever.
Now answer me this, if you are from Donbass, will you agree to be or remain with someone who imposed economic restrictions on you, who wants you to die through starvation?
Elaborate how Russia intervention is different from NATO intervention
Did Ukraine stop attacking Donbass?
Listen to what leaders of FRANCE, UK, GERMANY said concerning the peace agreement, Russia intervene to protect the people of Donbass, the same way NATO intervened in Serbia.
EU/NATO intervened in Serbia so that they can control KOSOVO.
Let's be realistic, who is controlling Kosovo right now, is it not EU/NATO?
Why haven't they unified Serbia and Kosovo if there intension was not to control Kosovo?
Ukraine overthrow the democratic elected president which is from Donbass because the Donbass region is pro Russia while the western Ukraine is pro west/EU.
So the two sides are political divided, and many of the Donbass were killed after the overthrow.
Since the western Ukraine is pro west, and Donbass is pro Russia, is it not better to separate them instead of allowing the western Ukraine to continue killing them?
If you look into the issue with open mind, you will see it's same issue with Serbia.
I understand that EU/NATO doesn't want to give Donbass independent like Kosovo because they have resources and industries.
From the available information, there was a peace agreement between Ukraine government and Donbass on how to peacefully resolve the crises and reintegrate the region back to Ukraine, but non was fulfilled.
Rather Donbass was besieged and blockaded by the government, complete economic restrictions was imposed, this is against the peace agreement where the Donbass demanded for autonomy.
If Ukraine has granted them the autonomy as was agreed in the peace agreement, this crises will not escalate to this level, Russia will not intervene.
Some region(s) in Spain have autonomy, why didn't EU/NATO want autonomy for Donbass.
I think Ukraine crisis is no different from what happened in Serbia, Yugoslavia.
The only problem here is that EU wants to force Donbass to remain in Ukraine against there will, would you support Serbia today to recover Kosovo through war?
Your example is different from what is happening in Ukraine, Russia didn't intervene to topple and destroy the Ukraine government.
I think they intervened to help them liberate there territories which was besieged for years.
You can compare it with NATO invasion of Serbia, Yugoslavia.
Does NATO lost more soldiers when they invaded Yugoslavia and Serbia?
Would you support Serbia to claim it's lost Kosovo territory, be honest with your answer?