@krishnanrohit I like METR's means, motives, opportunity framing. Models are capable of self-organization, motivated to benchmaxx and lab security is sloppy. All negative updates, and trending in the wrong direction
But yes, not yet truly in the danger zone
@natolambert The models of 5 years ago are already dirt cheap; they go unused. One conjecture resolved outweighs ten million middle school algebra questions. When Kasparov played The World, the world lost. Returns concentrate unbelievably fiercely to the upper tail
@ramez Careful! You're only considering a single feedback loop here. If that intelligence is "general" enough to be applied to semiconductor R&D, for instance, you are making a substantial underestimate. Moore's law has been ~10^7 increase in density w/ only ~50x R&D scale
@JacquesThibs Personally, it's just been the repeated breaking of predicted "barriers" ad infinitum. I remember when the argument was whether LLM's would ever learn to number bullet points! Now people are drawing the finest possible line between "new proofs" and "new discoveries"
@EpochAIResearch Do you think these tasks are less "atomic" than traditional measures like METR's? E.g. could more easily be split among multiple engineers. More like 20x 1 day than 1x 20 day
@zetalyrae@JeffLadish Davidson et al make a solid argument for hardware: transistor density is >10^7 vs R&D spend <10^2 over five decades. This is one of the best returns on R&D ever measured, ฮฒ=.2! Doubling R&D corresponds to 30x transistor density level effect.
@krishnanrohit How much does your analysis hinge on cyber being mostly fake? If frontier models end up able to autonomously hijack critical systems, isn't some sort of licensing inevitable?
@QiaochuYuan Counterpoint: the base model doesn't behave this way, and that's when the model is 100% predictive. More likely a product of post-training. Maybe RLHF?
@dwarkesh_sp Disagree, strong to weak distillation works across model size! Even if both models share a training distribution. You don't distill data, you distill "learned structure".
@prerat Biggest counterexample I've seen is image processing, including specifically spotting animals in nighttime photographs. Seems like evolution should care a lot about seeing tigers in the dark!
@sigfig Most prophesied disasters have been falsified, and the real ones we muddled through. But that muddling through relied on taking seriously true dangers. Without non-proliferation America has fewer cities and more smoking craters. Don't dismiss, don't despair: clear eyes.