@Philip_Goff For the masochist isn't the pain exactly what they want? It's not that they want to avoid pain but some other factor is stronger, they want the pain. How can it be considered a reason to avoid?
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@Nina_Compact identity can't be determined both absolutely socially and absolutely by our bodies. pretty big contradiction there
If you give in either direction you're gonna be making room trans people. which is good
@wokal_distance That anyone "knows where the line is" is because they have a subjective concept of an object, not because any boundary exists objectively.
You're arguing circularly, claiming that objects have boundaries because we know they have boundaries