@GBSHansO Who is "Christ" in that sentence ?
I believe my neighbor's hamster called Jesus Christ is a divine being born in another universe and he tells me in my dreams that I can become a god too.
That makes me a Christian because I worship Christ.
This is your argument. You’re Trans.
I cannot stand this tendency to equate rejection of their doctrines as “hate”.
No one owes any religion— which are just belief systems— unconditional or inherent respect.
Nor are we required the accept the terms for how you define yourselves.
That doesn’t mean I hate you.
One of the frustrating things of talking with libs is this kind of bullshit
"lol, they thought Pratt would win" No I didn't. I expected him to lose but was interested in him as a second place candidate
My main surprise is the unprecedented meteoric rise of a 3rd place candidate who, in post-election ballots, has become the #1 candidate. That seems weird.
I expect @HistoryBoomer to redirect from these actually interesting questions to a simplistic narrative in which he has no questions about the actual reality on the ground
He vastly prefers to attack a question that no one on the right is asking. His preferred mode of argumentation is to mock his opponents for a position no one is arguing
Christians do not believe Jesus is the product of celestial procreation.
Christians do not believe God was once a man who ascended to Godhood on another world.
Christians do not believe God dwells near a star called Kolob.
Christians do not believe faithful humans can become gods ruling worlds of their own.
Christians do not believe that Jesus visited America after His resurrection.
Christians do not believe Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers.
Christians do not believe there are multiple gods.
Christians do not believe God the Father has a physical body of flesh and bone.
Christians do not believe Native Americans received dark skin as the result of a curse.
Mormons are generally kind people. But kindness is not theology. Many Mormon beliefs—past and present—are fundamentally incompatible with historic Christian doctrine.
@jasoninthehouse I believe that my dog is a divine being born in the Andromeda galaxy who attained godhood by virtue of his greatness and his name is Jesus Christ.
That makes me a Christian.
Apparently.
@Fair_and_Biased The exercice isn’t hard.
Take a bible.
You can become Protestant or Catholic or Orthodox or whatever else.
From just that bible.
You can’t become Mormon with it.
New prophet. New scripture.
That means new faith.
Mormons should be classified appart like Jews and Muslim.
@spiderking232 It… pretty much is.
But let’s say it isn’t; whose job is it then ?
The Catholic church doesn’t consider them Christians. That’s official doctrine.
Who’s your other authority on this ? The State ? Well apparently the Pentagon didn’t consider them Christians either lol.
@UrkoTheGray@TheRoyalSerf Look it’s fairly simple.
Mormons have a new prophet. A new scripture.
Mormons are like Muslim, or like Christian were to Jews.
They are, at minimum, a completely different branch. Not just an internal divide.
And that’s ignoring the blatant incompatibility on the basics.
@Catholic_bro@BasedMikeLee Tbf, that list already has heretics to Christianity on there. One more won’t change anything. Obviously logically it’d be better to remove the other like Jehovah etc but the US government isn’t exactly an arbiter nor a reference in theological matters.
@HiredG31045@BasedMikeLee That’s not how that works
You can’t just stamp the name of Christ and something and make it Christian
Additionally; LDS is using "new scripture".
By theological and academic definition, this makes it an entirely different faith
This is Jewish-Christian level of divide minimum
@TysonHigham@bilywonka Such as God being eternal, unchanging and his transcendent nature ?
Such as not even being monotheistic ?
Such as the completely different view on the Nature of Salvation and Human Destiny ?
You don’t worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It’s fine. But don’t pretend.
@epicgeezr I didn’t watch South Park and I’m sane so Reddit ain’t somewhere I go.
I’m not even Christian so I don’t have a dog in this fight.
You’re not Christians. Neither was Hong Xiuquan.
Stop seeking legitimacy from the name of Christianity.
Whenever the "Mormons Aren't Christians" discourse gets going, Mormon Twitter generally responds in one or more of the following ways:
1. Insist that rejecting Jesus's divine nature and His work does not disqualify them from "believing" in Jesus
2. "We are literally the kindest and most righteous people on earth."
3. "Your churches are an abomination but we are just like you and it's so mean of you to say otherwise."
4. Accuse of us misrepresenting what they believe and then tell us what they actually DO believe, which is exactly what we just said they believe.
5. Outright lie about what they believe.