@EllenburgSam@DerekPederson3 Pro-choise is about leaving the effected people to make a choice.
I would also add "in a reasonable timeframe".
Pro-life people force their morality to everyone.
@colonelkurtz99 Greek Orthodox Christians actually baptise the child after death in order to get to heaven. Church believes that all have the original sin before baptism. Sooo, surprisingly they are not innocent until some words are read and some water and oil drops on them.
@also_psyche@rwlesq Innocence requires the ability to think consciously.
Worth is assumptive and variable per case and per subject of matter. The answer to "Does the mothers life worth more or less than an non viable 12 week fetus?" Won't be the same with "a 32 week one with a disability".
@Pellegrinoadict@VivaldiVril Imagine the state of mind this mother had in order to wish her daughter dies before her while she can still care for her.
Imagine the horrors she saw. And what horrors her daughter will see if her mother is gone.
@Pellegrinoadict@VivaldiVril A family friend with non functional DS daughter.
Father gone, from heart problems, they didn't had money or support so he died working.
This was ingrained in my memory: I heard her say "i hope she dies before me because if I go first I cant imaginr what will happen."
@ruthdelioncourt@Niggativiti@TemplarJosh88@TeeTrimma@SomaKazima2 I made questions that show how contested this subject is. This is not me saying I don't know how it works.
I am just saying if we take what people "believe" is not a good metric of basing laws or medical advices. As for ethics is entirely different mater.
@ruthdelioncourt@Niggativiti@TemplarJosh88@TeeTrimma@SomaKazima2 When the egg is fertilised pregnancy has not yet started.
Others say its at conception which its not the same.
Some say its when the fetus developed full neurological connections and consciousness.
Thats why its a very debated matter.
@SariaBeearia@gradeausa@Riley_Gaines_ I mean risk reduction is a thing.
Taking precautions is also a thing.
Making decisions early before they cause more problems is a thing.
Its like saying "you can get lung cancer either way, why not smoke from 10 years old"
The police officer who told a father that his 15 year old daughter should 'learn a lesson' after being raped by a Pakistani peadophile has never been charged with any crime
He's probably drawing a full pension by now
Which you are paying for
@opendoorforever@cybelethebest This is entirely health related.
Beauty is not a life threatening condition.
Intelligence is also impacted by environment so you cant know what the kid will be as an adult except if they're is a definite neurological issue that would impact learning and the rest.
@the_lasso_way@NKY_Leftist They are deeply loved because most if not all made a choice to keep them.
He never said their kids have no value. He said that they didnt feel that thay wanted to let their child to go through this as well as their family.
I call this guy stupid for profiting from it
@h3ll0again This thing happens, so people can't take actions to avoid happening to their kids. This argument is stupid.
It is infact not a happy go life when a family has a disabled person.
You are free to make the choice you think its right for you.