@minordissent That's a very good way of putting it. I think blue pressers are focused on the hypothetical, which since it's no stakes will almost always result in blue getting the >50%, whereas red pressers think about it actually happening which makes a blue "victory" much less likely
@SelonNerias@TrueSlazac Yeah it's indeed the taxes that flip it from positive to negative, but again the EV thing is a derailment. EV โ chances of success. A 100% chance of saving a life is obviously better than a 1/1B chance of saving any number of lives.
These results have made me realize what's specifically wrong with blue pressers: they can't conceptualize statistics. These are the people who play the lottery.
I'm having an argument with @Sofia_Phobia
You have a green and a purple button
Green button prevents the death of Four Billion random people with a probability of 0.0000001% (1 in a Billion)
Purple Button is guaranteed to prevent the death 1 random person on Earth
@SelonNerias@TrueSlazac Yeah I mean the point is that the chances of winning the lottery are better than the chances of pressing a button with a 1/1B success rate
@TrueSlazac Not to mention you can buy multiple lottery tickets. Just ten tickets increases your chances to 1/29,220,133.8 and you cab only press the button once
I'm not arguing in favor of the lottery, I'm pointing out how insane the rationalization of pressing green or blue is
@TrueSlazac I agree, it's not realistic. Neither is the chance of preventing 4 billion people from dying by pressing green in your scenario. Especially when compared to the 100% chance of saving one person. 1/1,000,000,000 is so much worse than 1/1 it shouldn't even be a conversation.
@CptAncapistan Red folks are fine with living in a world where they are the minority. Blue would rather die than live in a world where the majority disagree with them.
@gunpolicy Dawg the info is wrong. Colorado does not require any kind of license or permit to buy a gun, but it does have a concealed carry law, both of which are incorrectly marked. This website has no idea what it's even talking about
@harukaawake I consider Japan part of the West! ๐ค It's not a geographical thing, it's a cultural thing, and we have more in common than we are different!
@JoshStrifeHayes I firmly believe most red pressers donate blood, volunteer at soup kitchens, always return their shopping carts, hold doors open for people, etc etc. They are Solzhenitsyn's "Men Who Wanted To Be Left Alone"