@Constructe69311@Bey0nddd@Yeah_We_Horny@UncleBuckbroken Yeahh. In fandom spaces I avoid anything that seems like they dont know what they're talking about. I watch thoughtful creators or follow Twitter users that have good insight. Its also pretty obvious when people dont know what they're talking about so I just ignore em and move on
@Bey0nddd@Constructe69311@Yeah_We_Horny@UncleBuckbroken If someone didnt like something its pointless to fight them over it. A simple "it isnt for me" can be the end of that conversation. Once you realize most people don't care about the ins and outs of storytelling as much as you do it'll make blocking out bad takes so much easier
@Constructe69311@Bey0nddd@Yeah_We_Horny@UncleBuckbroken Good for you brother. Not everyone is gonna enjoy everything. At least you gave it an honest shot. Funny thing is you probably seen more of the story than most people that'd call themselves fans, having watched the whole thing too lol. I cant even hate
@Bey0nddd@Constructe69311@Yeah_We_Horny@UncleBuckbroken Yes and no. The new gen doesn't care about db as much. That and the general db audience unfortunately only cares starting from the saiyan saga onwards. Itll be a cold day in hell before most of them even check out OG DB to even reference it. Its more likely theyd reference naruto
@Toon97867338@None624572@SEXPISTOLSBITCH@theonetrueedge1 Fr. Ive only read the manga so I cant speak on the anime, but Oda's strengths were never in fight choreography. He has some bangers but other shonen tend to do way better in that department. I will say that's good in that you can't say its carried by fights like other shonen lol
@Airwarrior_king@Hallow6363@BronzeSaintClem What Goku did was reckless but the difference is Gohan could have very well killed Cell. His bet payed off. Gohan was the one that almost sold because he wanted play with his food, which he gets flack for. To your point tho, everybody in the Cell saga does dumb shit which is fair
@Mr_Zilla1@CouncilOfSSG@PhantoMz202 Dont get me wrong, its still weird but the difference is that its played for comedy and Roshi fails and gets punished. What happened to Pan is that she is a 10 year old who sits silent, unable to move and is in active fear if molestation and nobody thought to not write that shit
@Airwarrior_king@Hallow6363@BronzeSaintClem Its flimsy because nobody will excuse pride as a reason to do dumb shit and put other people's lives on the line. Its why people clown Ace from one piece and why some people clown vegeta. He was more likable as a self serving evil guy. He sucks imo when he revolves around goku
@SilmeranoX@CharlThe12@frosty_kale@GalaxySoldier This is worse imo. Babidi did not influence him. He allowed him to give him a power boost and selfishly fought goku for no reason but pride, released the ultimate evil which was completely avoidable btw, blows himself up in vain and people clap because he realized he was wrong
@DragoonBZ1@realmadridpake1@9Deface@Boi_die They mean back during its original airing lol. The pacing was quite bad lol because like one piece they were really close to the manga
@Lorelan97@threesfusion@lilac_fem@Le_Unorthodox@brndxix To use your exact logic. A 15 year old girl who thinks her 35 year old teacher looks insanely hot would brag about sleeping with him. Its not a problem, especially if he spends money on her and takes her out sometimes. Both are wrong, let's not do this bullshit
@kingslowdownn@Verloxwong@faintlament I already read the manga at the time so I personally knew something was up with the name, but from the perspective of someone thats anime only its very clear how this can be confusing. I think what mappa did was very dumb because there was no way they could have done it in one go
@kingslowdownn@Verloxwong@faintlament All their problems are solved by calling it seasons 4 5 and 6 or making 6 an movie/special or something else entirely. All they did was make people confused
@Jotaro623722@happerexxx@TheHeroOfSeinen That's fair. My personal beef with the post universe reset color versions is that they make the art look worse. The art just looses so much detail from the shading and line work at times. If you like it tho, thats cool, just my two cents
@happerexxx@Jotaro623722@TheHeroOfSeinen I avoid color mangas in general. Parts 1-6 are passable but from what I've seen of 7 or 8 it looks so murky. People can enjoy manga how they like but black and white will always look better to me. Especially because whoever colors it doesnt have the same vision as the artist
@43iqnation@Noodledori1 I think he's generally solid on Naruto takes. The only things i strongly disagree with are his hate for Uchihas and how Naruto wins 1v1s against other MCs because animators thought he'd look cool doing wing chun for some frames. His takes on non naruto things are kinda crazy tho
@KusanagiBlade77@Toon97867338@Champizard14 Dragon ball existed for years without super existing. Its perfectly fine if fans dont see it as up to par with what came before and reject it. They can choose to stick to what toriyama or toei wrote over 20+ years ago. They like what they like and others can like the new stuff