Cautious Optimism

Some day I’d like to be fun at parties

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@theo_bruv @Pastor_ChrisH @Soteriology101 This is deep.

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@Pastor_ChrisH

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@Soteriology101 I’m definitely not a Calvinist, but it’s time to learn a new joke.

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@gowdy_luke
Are you still around?

I enjoy your perspective.

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@Soteriology101 It was common among the Fathers that preceded Augustine to believe that man was unable to believe without supernatural intervention. What wasn’t common is the belief that God only desires some to believe.

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@ReformedArsenal @gowdy_luke

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@DPGBehler @ProvisionistP I don’t think it’s a “mystical force“ if we know the source. Pejorative framing aside, is there any place in scripture where granting someone something is the thing they already have?

We know how the phrase was used in the early church.

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@AntiWokeMemes Finny

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@VHSDVDBLURAY4K Pet rocks hadn’t been invented yet.

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@EdwardJDavey It is already destroyed.

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@1984_nate Precisely

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@HwsEleutheroi @DrDavidLAllen If we remove the histrionics and posturing from your response, we have a blank page.

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@Soteriology101 In much of Jewish literature and the Early Fathers, God’s granting of ability is ongoing, not a singular occurrence. The dependency is ongoing.

The Calvinists are in the wrong tree, and you are barking up it.

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@DPGBehler Both can be true at once. But I agree with your take.

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@DPGBehler Depends on how they vote…

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@adgirlMM I voted for this.

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@gowdy_luke @DPGBehler @ProvisionistP @sdcole Precisely.

Some of comments in this thread are goofy.

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@Soteriology101 Words aren’t a miraculous intervention.

If you communicate that miraculous events happened, you are doing it with words. Why people believe your story and respond appropriately is another issue.

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@Soteriology101 Well, according to the Bible, they are following a false deity because they are deceived by Satan (Revelation 12:9).

So whether they do what it right or what is wrong, they are doing so under the supernatural influence of another being.