@KatharinaWesse2 This one example has always stood out to me. With so many spurious etymologies in classical works, a 3rd century BC Latin poet was able to draw the line between these two verbs that have little resemblance.
@Nuskylicious I think we're missing out on the most fun discourse: the historicity of the speeches. Did Manlius Vulso really invoke a race theory that was popular in the late republic in a bookish tirade against the Galatians? I think so!
@Nuskylicious His preface to the whole work says as much and the one to book 6 repeats this! I think I've broken my usual silence on here several times now just to say read Livy's preface. He'll tell you what he's doing
@sentantiq I love Livy. I have a shelf of Oxford critical editions. And as said elsewhere, everyone should start at the preface and take a moment to reflect on it before diving in.
@theo_nash@romanhelmetguy augustiora faciat; et si cui populo licere oportet consecrare origines suas et ad deos referre auctores, ea belli gloria est populo Romano ut cum suum conditorisque sui parentem Martem potissimum ferat, tam et hoc gentes humanae patiantur aequo animo quam imperium patiuntur.
@theo_nash@romanhelmetguy If he wants to read the preface:
Quae ante conditam condendamve urbem poeticis magis decora fabulis quam incorruptis rerum gestarum monumentis traduntur, ea nec adfirmare nec refellere in animo est. Datur haec venia antiquitati ut miscendo humana divinis primordia urbium 1/2
@newphilologyX I only read it briefly to see what the fuss was about. I think it's probably the best translation for a student of Greek who needs a little help checking their translation against another. For a casual reader, it's not the most gripping.
@wophugus@sentantiq Going to post my third tweet in as many years to say how frustrating this is, seeing people who can't parse a verb latching onto adjectives & noun phrases, coming from "conservatives" no less. I know conservative classicists, and they care more about what app crit you use
@LainPoasting I particularly enjoy the part about the threat of war leading to a lack of economic investment and how previous instability in the region caused a credit crisis in Rome. Such a simpler time.
Hi all -- so. I skipped ahead to the New Testament, with a Koine Greek - English side-by-side literal translation, and what am I to do -- so much of the NT has been mistranslated, or, shall I say, creatively translated, in addition to the OT having often been mistranslated. Is it offensive if I analyze this fact when we get to the NT? The creative translations or outright mistranslations of the NT often write out what was familiar language of a radical/reforming Jewish teacher/Redeemer of Israel, and heighten or present other language that introduces or showcases the idea of the establishment of a new (Hellenistic-oriented) religion. As in later translations of the OT, there is often distance introduced in later translations of the NT between "the Sons of God" (that is, humans) and God, that is not there in the original. I think this set of insights is important but I do fear offending people.