Let me make this simple:
For anyone with any shred of a moral compass, here are the reasonable and debatable positions:
1) What occurred on 10/7 was a horrific and indefensible crime against humanity. The continuing attacks cannot be accepted. Hamas’ destruction is a necessity to ensure it does not happen again and to provide a path forward for both people. Israel must do whatever it takes to pursue that goal, but it should try to minimize collateral damage as it does so.
2) What occurred on 10/7 was a horrific and indefensible crime against humanity. However, the cost of eradicating Hamas has proven to be too great due to the tactics they employ. Israel should continue targeted efforts aimed at Hamas and should bolster their defenses, but will have to accept them staying in place for now and risk further attacks to try to save other lives. We should find a way to force Hamas to release the hostages.
I happen to believe 1 is correct, but we can have that debate.
What is not an acceptable position for anyone with any sense of human decency and we should stop indulging or normalizing people who are advocating for it:
3) The mass murder, mass rapes, torture, and kidnappings of 10/7 were justified resistance (despite also refusing and denying such actions occurred) and the real problem is just Israel’s refusal to not just accept their own annihilation. “Zionists” are clearly the bad guy based on a worse-than Wikipedia knowledge of the last 75 years and ignorant invocation of terms like genocide and apartheid. Palestinians have zero responsibility to make any effort toward stopping violence or destruction, and everything they do and support is justified.
Those advocating for #3 are not reasonable people who are worthy of debate or mainstreaming. They should be social outcasts in any respectable society. Hope that clears it up for people.
Today, November 30th, is the Day of Commemoration for the #Jewish refugees who were expelled and ethnically cleansed from Arab countries and Iran.
We must never forget this historical tragedy.
#ExpulsionDay
@SitiXen@NOShea_1@tribecamom@SurZeit@ObsDingDong@EinatWilf@JohnEdwardsJon1 It does, when it is done in a defensive war. In a defensive war, your adversary evidently behaves aggressively. You then have the right to occupy lands necessary to keep your own country safe.
And Jews and Arabs do coexist in Israel since 1948.
@SitiXen@SurZeit@ObsDingDong@EinatWilf@JohnEdwardsJon1 The conflict has it's roots in the 19th century, with the Ottoman modernisation drive. They didn't live in peace before Israel. The first pogroms happened decades before 1947. You could even say the partition plan became necessary because of the conflict.
In today's #vatniksoup, I'll introduce an American social media personality, Samantha A. (@zukosmadre).
She's best-known for anti-Imperialism (but only when it comes to the US), and for her hot takes on the Russo-Ukrainian War and the conflict in the Middle East.
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“With their money, they [the Jews] took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others.”
- Adolf Hitler, 1938
… Just kidding, this is from the Hamas Charter.
It’s never was simply about ‘resistance’ now was it?
@owenil SD har alltid varit en orosfaktor. Det är bara det att mellan SD och V+S+MP, så är de senare en betydligt större sådan. Medan SD stadigt vandrat mot mitten och uteslutit västfientliga element, så har de senare tvärtom inkorporerat fler sådana.
Spain and Belgian PMs are two idiots who just gave Hamas recognition.
Intoxicated, they thought Palestinian State recognition NOW would end the crisis!
The return of hostages is not their priority,
Eradicating savages who sabotaged the entire peace process was not on their agenda.
Condemning Hamas' genocide, and the use of human shields wasn't necessary.
They want a Palestinian state now, before ending Hamas's rule in Gaza.
A state ruled by savages?
I highly recommend that European leaders deal with their own growing illegal migrant crisis and let Israel mourn its genocide victims.
Important Left Party member creates moral equivalence between Jews and islamists. This is all you need to know about the left party. The horseshoe is real.
En gubbe som är fixerad på "islamisterna" är lika illa som en gubbe som är fixerad på "judarna". Nej vi vill inte att fascistiska fanatiker ska styra detta landet. https://t.co/CbK2xZbijo
@Alsadius@adelamr92@mattyglesias Agreed, that's just how it is. My grandparents belonged to the latter group. They were displaced. Became refugees. They accepted it and moved on. Stopped being refugees.
@JustLuai It will take time. Palestine will need to be supervised for a couple of decades. And not only because the Palestinian population needs to chill, but also because they need to feel there is accountability for Israelis as well as themselves.
@Alsadius@adelamr92@mattyglesias Yeah, I get it. Would you mind clarifying your perspective on the difference between the migrations during and after the war?
Important questions:
1- Is Hamas a Palestinian national, resistance, and liberation organization, Or is it a savage group waging a HOLY WAR against Israel?
2-Was the Oct. 7 attacks terrorism motivated by political hatred or it was an ethnic cleansing based on racism and religious hatred?
3-Is Hamas guilty of using civilians as human shields?
4-What is Hamas's priority goal? Civilians and state or a global ideological dominion?
5-Could any future Palestinian state that includes Hamas coexist with the state of Israel?
6-If Israel doesn't succeed in removing Hamas from power, what the next war will look like?
7-Is it possible to achieve long-lasting peace in the Middle East as long as Hamas has the power to destabilize security in the region?
Åkessons förslag är enligt @MagnusRanstorp kontraproduktiva:
”När man går så hårt mot en religiös grupp skapar det en känsla av att de är utsatta och pressade. Ju mer pressad en grupp känner sig desto mer ökar radikaliseringen och polariseringen.”
Läs:
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