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@ChrisFitzMelb So Jews murdered on Oct 7 didn't deserve sympathy because of what their government did? What the fuck kind of logic is that? You can condemn Israeli policy and Gaza AND condemn civilians being slaughtered. Collective guilt doesn't become moral just because the victims are Israeli

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@ChrisFitzMelb pretending antisemitism can NEVER hide behind "antizionism" is fucking braindead. If you're attacking Jews as Jews using antisemitic tropes or holding Jews collectively responsible for Israel, changing the label doesn't sanitize it

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@ChrisFitzMelb Far right extremists holding a conference in Jerusalem doesn't magically prove the UK Greens can't have racist policies "But look at these other assholes!" isn't a fucking defense right chris?

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@ChrisFitzMelb Ben Gvir is a far right politician not the fucking definition of Zionism By this genius logic, every ideology and country is defined by its worst extremist politician. Condemn his policies all you want. One asshole doesn’t prove millions of Zionists are racist

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@ChrisFitzMelb @cookybottt @joperec @StochasticStat1 @samhaselby You went from “the founders explicitly intended this” to “well look what happened" That’s not proof
That’s you retreating from your own claim

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@ChrisFitzMelb @cookybottt @joperec @StochasticStat1 @samhaselby “It didn’t happen by accident” isn’t evidence of the specific master plan you claimed mate

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@ChrisFitzMelb @cookybottt @joperec @StochasticStat1 @samhaselby Zionist leaders discussed Arab transfer That’s documented What you haven’t proved is that Zionism’s founders adopted some unified master plan to expel Palestinians. Those are not the same claim

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@ChrisFitzMelb @cookybottt @joperec @StochasticStat1 @samhaselby You're changing the claim again "Palestinians were displaced in some land purchases" is not proof that Zionist immigration itself was designed to replace Palestinians. And buying land legally isn't magically "literal colonialism" because you dislike who bought it. Youre stupid

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@ChrisFitzMelb @cookybottt @joperec @StochasticStat1 @samhaselby Are you fucking stupid? Do You think migration is settler colonialism?

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@SaoirsedT @cookybottt @Helen_pea_007 antisemitism existing can push Jews toward Zionism sure. that does NOT prove 'Zionists need antisemitism' or want more of it. that's a motive claim you nazi

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@SaoirsedT @cookybottt @JessFerd93 @PhilipProudfoot Jews living outside their ancestral homeland for centuries is literally what diaspora means, are you ok bitch?

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@SaoirsedT @cookybottt @DolomiteMick @ThomasJPinkCain then drop your numbers + source lmao. You nazi Irish bitch

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan Nazi Germany invaded Poland as part of a racial imperial plan to conquer Eastern Europe, expel enslave populations and resettle German West Bank settlements are illegal/contested and absolutely deserve criticism but calling them "the same thing" is historically braindead

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan you’re literally skipping 60 years 💀 Zionism was organized in the 1800s Jewish immigration was already happening under the Ottomans and the Yishuv existed long before WW2 "Israel only happened because Europe sent Jews there after the Holocaust" is just historicaly lazy and wrong

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@zionismisdead12 @WinningFactory @Marian763979941 @Heccles94 i literally admitted i read your point wrong 😭 what exactly are you still celebrating

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@zionismisdead12 @WinningFactory @Marian763979941 @Heccles94 i already said you were right about what you meant the Westphalia point doesn’t change that i was talking about modern statehood not whether the word ‘Palestine’ existe

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan Israel did make proposals built around a Palestinian state especially in the 2000s you can say the borders/security terms sucked but that’s very different from saying 'they never offered statehood'

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan Haavara wasn’t Hitler ‘offering Jews peace’ 💀 it was an emigration/asset transfer agreement to get Jews out of Nazi Germany
completely different thing

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan Israel as a modern state was founded in 1948 yeah Jewish history in the land being thousands of years old and the modern state being created in 1948 are not contradictory statements 💀

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@Xx_heather_3927 @jonkentcomrade @JoeMcCarthy2tan you’re mixing real discrimination with Nazi comparisons again, Mizrahi and Ethiopian Jews have faced racism and West Bank settlements are widely considered illegal under international law but calling that ‘race science’ and ‘Lebensraum’ is your analogy not some proven fact