@3lfares This Nazi comparison is lazy as hell. Hitler’s regime was persecuting Jews and then weaponized other countries refusal to take refugees. “If you think Gazans are in danger, offer asylum” is not remotely the same thing. Criticize displacement without butchering history you nazi
@spori13833@25lasa@PrairieCatboy@louploco99 Yes, “Nothing prohibited a future Jewish state” ≠ “the Balfour Declaration specifically sought a Jewish state” The actual text promised a national home and even the Royal Commission said Britain had NOT committed itself to establishing a state.
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair Three outlets repeating a claim can corroborate reporting it doesn’t magically establish Netanyahu’s personal knowledge or guilt And “he opposes an inquiry, therefore he’s guilty” is literally circular reasoning Show the evidence connecting him to the specific intel
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair Palestinians absolutely have deep Levantine ancestry That doesn’t make them the sole descendants of ancient Jews and it doesn’t erase Jewish Levantine ancestry either “Half-bred Europeans” is just racial purity garbage pretending to be history
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair You’re quoting Pappé’s interpretation like it’s uncontested fact 🤦♂️ Pappé calls Plan Dalet a blueprint for ethnic cleansing, Morris explicitly rejects that interpretation Historians have argued about this for decades. At least admit which interpretation you’re parroting
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair The refugee question is absolutely a legitimate issue. But Israel’s Law of Return is an immigration/citizenship policy Palestinian refugee return is a separate territorial and refugee dispute
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair "Agree with my Nazi comparison or you’re racist" isn’t an argument it’s emotional blackmail. You can condemn Israeli crimes without flattening completely different histories into Holocaust analogies every five fucking minutes
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair Private land ownership ≠ sovereignty 😭 Jews owning roughly 7% doesn’t mean Palestinians privately owned the other 93%. Huge areas were state/public land and the proposed Jewish state included the sparsely populated Negev. You’re comparing two completely different things
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair “No one in Israel cares” is an obviously indefensible claim
You went from criticizing Israeli public opinion to declaring what millions of individual people think. Criticize apathy or government policy all you want stop turning millions of people into a fucking hive mind
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair Most Jews in Mandatory Palestine by 1947 were immigrants or descendants of recent immigrants Fine But “the old Jewish community was anti Zionist” is a ridiculous blanket statement. The Old Yishuv wasn’t one political bloc and parts of it became integrated into the New Yishuv
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair Jews maintained Hebrew, Levantine religious traditions, prayers centered on Jerusalem and continuous communities in the region for centuries. Ashkenazi Jews also have substantial Levantine ancestry. Calling them simply “Europeans” erases half the fucking history
@quaint_quant@RucRobson@RabbiMivasair “Resistance” doesn’t make every act of violence justified Deliberately murdering civilians because you oppose immigration or displacement is still murdering civilians. You don’t get a moral blank check because you call the violence resistance
@25lasa@PrairieCatboy@louploco99 Bro didn’t even read the fucking Balfour Declaration 🤦♂️ It literally says "national home for the Jewish people" NOT “Jewish state
@ChrisFitzMelb@joperec@StochasticStat1@samhaselby You keep sneaking in "intention of replacing the indigenous population" like you proved it Immigration and land purchases don't prove a master plan to expel Arabs. That's your conclusion not your fucking evidence
@ChrisFitzMelb@HamasDead_@joperec@StochasticStat1@samhaselby Now you've moved the goalposts from migration = settler colonialism to "migration + expulsion" Those aren't the same claim, Most Zionist immigration before 1948 was immigration and land purchase the mass Palestinian displacement came during the 1947-49 war