Hanqi Sun

Computer Use Agents at @TeslaSI / Grok @Bot

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

Come join us for pushing the frontier of real time AI!

[Elon Musk @elonmusk]

We’re making interesting progress here.

Digital Optimus can play about halfway through the Diablo campaign so far just by looking at the screen like a human.

Skill at Counter-Strike and other fast games is good too.

League is also in training.

Goal is to generalize across all games.

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

@benjamin_bolte Why do you think the model layer will get commoditized?

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

Patrick's podcast is the gift that keeps on giving. This episode is yet another all-time great, offering valuable insights on leadership, investing, and personal growth. It dives deep into one of life's toughest questions: Do you have what it takes?

[Patrick OShaughnessy @patrick_oshag]

Today’s conversation with @GrahamDuncanNYC is going to make you think about your life in a variety of new ways:

- starting an investing platform
- source, compulsion, grip
- levels of the investing game
- evaluating people

One of, if not THE, best I’ve recorded

Enjoy!

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

.. in areas where there is no consensus on what the objective is, I don’t see neural networks will make much progress (e.g. in many social scenarios). Unless one day a program can define its own objective function and defend itself in front of humans?

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

One key assumption in the essay is that powerful AI shall be able to operate autonomously and control physical resources. It will happen in areas where the objective function is well defined and agreed upon (e.g. increasing productivity in a business). But..

[Dario Amodei @DarioAmodei]

Machines of Loving Grace: my essay on how AI could transform the world for the better

https://t.co/CFGd4Sbq86

[Johann Hari @johannhari101]

The 4 mental states that Twitter most often stirs in its users are sarcasm, exasperation, contempt, and rage. We all have those feelings sometimes, & in small doses they can be healthy - but they are psychologically disastrous modes to live in over the longer term.

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

@dexter_mh Sure if you DM me your VIN I can check tmr for any alerts or issues

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

@dexter_mh There should be visible alerts on the screen before each strike. If you react before an audible warning it won’t count as a strike I believe. It could be some issues related to the selfie cam on your car. Are you using FSD?

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

@YileiQian I am going next week

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

Very well said by Ezra on community and early parenthood. Some of my favorite quotes:

* There is no protagonist in family and relationships
* Community is less about place but more about where your people are gathered
* When you choose autonomy over and over again, you lose the skill of living in a community

[Death, Sex & Money @deathsexmoney]

.@ezraklein’s work looks at the impact of policy on our lives. After a move and a health crisis, Ezra and his wife struggled to get the support they needed for their kids. Today, Ezra tells @annasale about parenthood and the lure of communal living: https://t.co/bLuFXPRlbo

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

Ayn Rand created a fictional world to communicate that self sufficiency for one's spirit shall be "the only gauge of human virtue and value". She painted a sharp contrast between "creators", who love work solely for its own sake, and "second-handers", whose self-respect only comes from others. In her world, characters believing in the former eventually rise to prove the boundless potential of individuals while the latter kind slowly rots.

Although Ayn did not explicitly mention capitalism, I think in some ways she explained the spirit of capitalism better than that from the religious angle of Max Weber. It's refreshing to see that almost 100 years later, people who thrive in capitalistic system still universally combine a systematic pursuit for profit and a fanatic passion for one's work. One can't help but wonder whether the trend will continue for decades to come.

[Esther Crawford ✨ @esthercrawford]

Like seemingly everyone on this app I have plenty of opinions about Twitter > X and figure now is a good time to open up a bit about my experience at the company.

I tweeted for years into the void for the love of it like many of you, but after selling my startup to Twitter in 2020 I finally got to see it from the inside. Up close it was both amazing and terrible, like so many other companies and things in life.

As someone with a maniacal sense of urgency built into me, Twitter often felt siloed and bureaucratic. Dumb power plays, reorgs and team name changes for the sake of someone’s ego were distractions that occurred too regularly.

You couldn’t just be a builder — you also needed to be a politician.

I was shocked by how old and bespoke the infrastructure was, but there was little will to think beyond quarterly earnings calls because we were all beholden to the masters of mDAU and revenue growth as a public company. It often felt like things were held together with duct tape and glue, and that many people had just accepted that a small product change could take months or quarters to build.

Management had become bloated to accommodate career growth and the company culture felt too soft and entitled for my own taste. Healthy debate and criticism was replaced by a default refrain of “no, that can’t be done” or “another team owns that so don’t touch it”.

Teams could spend months building a feature and then some last-minute kerfuffle meant it’d get killed for being too risky.

Just talking directly to customers could turn into a turf war and create deadlocks between functions.

I recall one such episode where a teammate spent a month trying to get clearance to reach out to some creators. He went through 3 layers of management and 6 different functional teams. In the end 4 executives were involved in the approval. It was insanity, and unfortunately I saw several top performers get burnt out and demoralized after exhausting experiences like that.

Most people were good at their jobs but it was nearly impossible to fire poor performers — instead they got shuffled around to other teams because few managers had the will or resources to figure out how to get them out.

A high performance culture pulls everyone up, but the opposite weighs everyone down. Twitter often felt like a place that kept squandering its own potential, which was sad and frustrating to see. The person who was best at cutting through the BS and inspiring a vision during my tenure was Kayvon Beykpour, but he wasn’t fully empowered to run the company since he wasn’t the CEO.

Despite those real issues, I was lucky enough to work with some of the most talented people in the business at Twitter in product, design, engineering, research, legal, BD, trust & safety, marketing, PR and more. Often it was a small cross-functional team of intrinsically motivated people who made the biggest impact by challenging some core assumption. Those teams were very fun to be on but they felt like the exception rather than the rule.

The months of waiting for the deal to close in 2022 were particularly slow and painful; it felt like leadership hid behind lawyers and legal language as all answers about the company’s future notoriously included the phrase “fiduciary duty”. Colleagues openly talked about how Twitter was being sold because leadership didn’t have conviction in their own plan or ability to fix longstanding problems.

Although I didn’t know much about Elon I was cautiously optimistic – I saw him as the guy who built incredible and enduring companies like Tesla and SpaceX, so perhaps his private ownership could shake things up and breathe new life into the company.

My take on what’s happened since then is full of lived nuance.

When people ask why I stayed it’s easy to answer: optimism, curiosity, personal growth and money.

From the beginning I saw that some changes Elon was going to make were smart and others were stupid, but when I’m on a team I uphold the philosophy of “praise in public and criticize in private”. I was far from a silent wallflower. I shared my opinions openly and pushed back often, both before and after the acquisition.

I made peace with the fact that I didn’t have psychological safety at Twitter 2.0 and that meant I could be fired at any moment, and for no reason at all. I watched it happen repeatedly and saw how negatively it impacted team morale. Although I couldn’t change the situation I did my best to shine a light on folks who were doing important work while being an emotionally supportive leader for those who were struggling to adapt to the more brutalist and hardcore culture.

In person Elon is oddly charming and he’s genuinely funny. He also has personality quirks like telling the same stories and jokes over and over. The challenge is his personality and demeanor can turn on a dime going from excited to angry. Since it was hard to read what mood he might be in and what his reaction would be to any given thing, people quickly became afraid of being called into meetings or having to share negative news with him.

At times it felt like the inner circle was too zealous and fanatical in their unwavering support of everything he said. When individuals encouraged me to be careful about what I said I politely thanked them and said I would not be taking their advice. I had no interest in adding to a culture of fear or walking on eggshells around Elon. Either he would respect me for being real or he could fire me. Either outcome was okay.

I quickly learned that product and business decisions were nearly always the result of him following his gut instinct, and he didn’t seem compelled to seek out or rely on a lot of data or expertise to inform it. That was particularly frustrating for me since I believed I had useful institutional knowledge that could help him make better decisions. Instead he'd poll Twitter, ask a friend, or even ask his biographer for product advice. At times it seemed he trusted random feedback more than the people in the room who spent their lives dedicated to tackling the problem at hand. I never figured out why and remain puzzled by it.

I don’t think things had to be as difficult or dramatic as they turned out to be but I can’t say I’d bet against Elon or count him out. He’s smart and has enough money to make a lot of mistakes and then course correct when things go awry. As the largest shareholder he can tank the value in the short-term, but eventually he’ll need things to turn around.

His focus on speed is incredible and he’s obviously not afraid of blowing things up, but now the real measure will be how it get reconstructed and if enough people want the new everything app he is building.

I learned a ton from watching Elon up close – the good, the bad and the ugly. His boldness, passion and storytelling is inspiring, but his lack of process and empathy is painful.

Elon has an exceptional talent for tackling hard physics-based problems but products that facilitate human connection and communication require a different type of social-emotional intelligence.

Social networks are hard to kill but they’re not immune from death spirals. Only time will tell what the outcome will be but I hope X finds its footing because competition is good for consumers.

In the meantime, I have a lot of empathy for the employees who are working tirelessly behind the scenes, the advertisers who want a stable platform to sell their stuff on, and the customers who are experiencing chaotic updates. It’s been a madhouse.

Twitter moved at the speed of molasses and suffered from bureaucracy but now X is run by a mercurial leader whose instinct is driven by the unique and undoubtedly weird experience of being the biggest voice on the platform.

Many of you know me from the sleeping bag incident where I slept on a conference room floor, so I figure, let’s talk about that too.

Going viral was an odd and interesting experience. I was attacked by people on the left and called a billionaire bootlicker, while simultaneously being attacked by people on the right for being a working mom who was demonized as an example of a woman choosing her career over her family.

Thankfully I can laugh at myself and I don’t take armchair keyboard ideologues too seriously. Being the main character on the timeline, even for a few minutes, requires a thick skin and a strong sense of self.

The real story is pretty simple. I was given a nearly impossible deadline for his first project and as the product lead I would never ask anyone to do anything I wasn’t willing to do myself. So I worked round the clock alongside an amazing team spanning many timezones, and we delivered it on schedule – truly against the odds. It was intense but also fun.

Those first few months were wildly crazy but I wanted to be there and I have no regrets.

Showing up and giving it your all should, in most cases, be celebrated. Obviously you can’t work at that pace forever but there are moments where bursts are mission critical. I’ve pulled many all-nighters in my career and also when I was a student for something that mattered to me. I don’t regret putting in long hours or being ambitious, and feel proud of how far I’ve come from where I started thanks in part to that type of work ethic.

I think of life as a game, and being at Twitter after the acquisition was like playing life at Level 10 on Hard Mode. Since I like taking on difficult challenges I found it interesting and rewarding because I was growing and learning so rapidly.

I realize our society today trends toward polarization but when it comes to this app, its owner, and its future, I am neither a fangirl nor a hater — I’m an optimistic pragmatist.

This may really irritate the internet but you cannot pigeonhole me into some radical position of either loving or hating every change that’s occurred. I escaped my fundamentalist upbringing and am a free thinker these days. Everyone can be seen as both a hero or a villain, depending on who is telling what angle of the story. Elon doesn’t deserve to be venerated or vilified. He’s a complicated person with an unfathomable amount of financial and geopolitical power which is why humanity needs him to err on the side of goodness, rather than political divisiveness and pettiness.

I disagree with many of his decisions and am surprised by his willingness to burn so much down, but with enough money and time, something new & innovative may emerge.

I hope it does.

Sometimes I get asked about how I felt when I got laid off, and the truth is it was the best gift I’ve ever received. Sure the headlines and punchlines wrote themselves but I was battle hardened by then. I knew that I’d worked in a way where I could walk out with my head held high. I have no bitterness about the Product Management team being dismantled, and it made sense for me to exit as nearly all of the remaining PMs were let go.

Going on a sabbatical afterward has been exactly what I needed to decompress and I’m finally feeling rested and relaxed. I’m a creative and a builder, so sooner than later I’ll jump back into a high intensity company but I’m grateful for this season of thinking, reading, traveling and being with people I love.

After having time to reflect I believe more than ever that the very best outcomes flow from great leadership that combines the head and the heart.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t note that in all of this there is also a cautionary tale for anyone who succeeds at something — which is that the higher you climb, the smaller your world becomes. It’s a strange paradox but the richest and most powerful people are also some of the most isolated.

I found myself frequently looking at Elon and seeing a person who seemed quite alone because his time and energy was so purely devoted to work, which is not the model of a life I want to live.

Money and fame can create psychological prisons which may worsen mental health conditions. We’ve all seen high profile cases of celebrities who end up with some combination of depression, paranoia, delusions of grandeur, mania and/or erratic behavior.

Living in an echo chamber is dangerous and being at the top makes a person even more susceptible to being surrounded by yes people when nearly everyone around you is on the payroll and somehow stands to benefit from being in your orbit. Figuring out how to keep “better angels” around in the form of family, friends, and teammates is critical to staying on the rails and enduring intense ups and downs. Everyone needs to hear hard truths sometimes and if you fire all the people who speak up then the reality distortion field may just turn into a vortex.

I was drawn to Twitter because I’m obsessed with the problem of loneliness and connection between people. I find it fascinating & troubling that humans are getting lonelier as we simultaneously create a world that’s both safer and wealthier. I don’t believe that trade-off has to exist, which is why I keep returning to that theme in my personal and professional life.

I realize this is too long of a tweet but Twitter was a weird and special place on the internet, and I’m grateful to have played a teeny tiny role in its story and evolution.

I’m here for whatever comes next — on this app and in new places. Consumer social is very much alive and at a fascinating juncture, so I’ll be watching and participating and sharing hot takes because I don’t want to, and probably can’t, turn that part of me off.

Perhaps X becomes a resounding success. Or it fails epically.

Either way, I expect it will continue to be a very entertaining ride.

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[Jeremy Howard @jeremyphoward]

I've spent the last few months interviewing >60 experts in law, economics, AI, alignment, etc, on the impacts of AI, and safety interventions.

Today I'm publishing my first article, showing regulation designed to increase AI safety may backfire badly!
https://t.co/NsZZ5H2BVH

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

Just wish some of the chapters are shorter tho 🤷‍♂️

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

#PowerAndProgress by @DAcemogluMIT offers sound criticisms of the elitism beliefs of the tech industry. The concentration of power and wealth among tech practitioners is facing a growing backlash. The industry faces a much bigger social challenge than the technical aspect

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

"Our economy is structured in a manner that organically identifies and maximally utilizes talent to create short-term marginal productivity."

Couldn't have said better myself. How could capitalism adapt to the demographic challenge in the next 50 years?

[PALLADIUM Magazine @palladiummag]

Demographic collapse is now inevitable in most countries. Families that optimize for child-rearing now will build the cultures of the future.

New from Simone and Malcolm Collins (@SimoneHCollins)

https://t.co/xLUI4KBir9

[Sankalpa Khadka @SankalpaKhadka]

Had an incredible experience hacking with @sidpshanker and @Hanqi_thinking on building AI generated dev environment this weekend @agihouse_ai. Shoutout to @Mascobot @davederiso @JvNixon @rockyrmit for putting together a great show. Thanks to @OpenAI & @GreylockVC for sponsorship.

[Hanqi Sun @Hanqi_thinking]

We built everything with the help of Copilot and GPT-4 in just under 8 hours. Superexcited to see what AI can help us next! Huge props to @agihouse_ai for organizing the fantastic hackathon last night!

[Sid Shanker @sidpshanker]

Have an AI build a working dev environment for you! Awesome building this w/ @Hanqi_thinking & @SankalpaKhadka at the @agihouse_ai hackathon! stoked to get 2nd place!

[PALLADIUM Magazine @palladiummag]

Stanford dismantled its famously spontaneous campus life. The cost may be what made it great: cultivating free, independent agency in its students.

Today from Ginevra Davis (@ginevlily)

https://t.co/HluKuvEO0S