@JustinPetersMin@Charlie_Ford Where does the word “allow” come into play here at all? Jesus said anyone who comes to him will given rest. Period. He also said that only those given to him by the Father will come. The implication is that left to our own devices no human being will come.
God's sovereign election in salvation is clearly taught in Scripture. So is man's responsibility and accountability. They are twin truths. Sometimes both of these truths are presented literally in the same breath. As but one example, consider Matthew 11:25-27:
25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.
26 Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight.
27 All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
No amount of hermeneutical gymnastics can get around God's sovereignty in salvation in these verses. Then, the very next words out of the mouth of Christ:
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.
It was well pleasing to God to hide the things of salvation from some and reveal them to others (vs. 25-26). No one can know the Father or the Son except to those whom the Son wills (vs. 27).
But the invitation still goes out to all and is open to anyone who is weary and heavy laden with their sin and seeks rest from their own futile efforts of self-righteousness.
"Come to Me."
@thealfordplea@CVernonSmith@mascotmike12 If Paxton were running around claiming adultery is biblically permissible, in fact it should be celebrated as an overflow of the sexual urges God put in you then Christians would be equally repulsed by him.
@DougVanDorn@TomHicks2LCF IMO the people who have carried on his legacy have taken is view on creeds and confessions and gone to the worst possible conclusion with it. It’s sad.
@DougVanDorn@TomHicks2LCF Mikes biggest flaw was his anti credal stance. We don’t hold the creeds above scripture but we recognize that they are helpful in codifying hundred and hundreds of years of Christian thought on divisive issues.
@IFFFMEISTER 💯 yes. His need to go hard against historic creeds and confessions was his Achilles heel. I’ve benefited a ton from his work. The reformed world would do well to interact with his work in good faith instead of blatantly straw manning what he believed and taught.
@NathanBozeman2 I am annoyed by Heiser’s tangents on rejecting creeds and confessions and the reformed unfair and untruthful characterization of him as a polytheist/upholder of extracanonical literature as canonical/saying that he claimed to have discovered secret knowledge.