You don't have to believe in secret civilizations or that archeologists are keeping stuff from the people, but you do have to wonder why they're so against excavating GT completely and documenting the different images on the pillars. Is it simple incompetence? @BrightInsight6
Many are under the impression that #Göbeklitepe is some sort of buried chamber of secrets. No, we are dealing with an Early Holocene settlement with monumental communal buildings, some containing imagery, perhaps depicting oral narratives of the time. Nothing more, nothing less
@Rick_Hallnotbot@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 Right. I'm not digging into it much and was seriously unsure of it. That's where cultural popularizers come in. I saw the hancock/dibble debate and didn't learn as much as I did on this Twitter thread.
@Rick_Hallnotbot@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 My original post was about the associated pic. I still stand by my question's tone, but understand it's not incompetence, but actual decision. It seems I just honestly disagree. Moreover, there's a serious communication/popularizing issue from the academy.
Watching SCARS OF DRACULA and am pleasantly surprised to see Patrick Troughton in another horror role. Hammer films are the best. Nobody beats Christopher Lee as Dracula.
@BAJRjobs@FlintDibble@SoilManDan@BrightInsight6@drleeclare And that's new info to me, which is surprising to me as a historian. I think communication or popularizers are desperately needed!
Still, I Respectfully disagree and think those smaller pits around pillars should be done.
@FlintDibble@SoilManDan@BrightInsight6@BAJRjobs@drleeclare Ok, thank you. This has satisfied most of my questions. I'd still wonder, though, is there a way to do small area excavations around the pillars, only a few inches or feet so as to leave most of the enclosures undisturbed? Only to see what's on each unique pillar?
@Peacheserratica Part of how to get it out would surely to be kind, right? To explain it rather than accuse people of being in a cult because they don't understand why sites aren't excavated.
@SoilManDan@BrightInsight6@BAJRjobs@drleeclare@FlintDibble What about exploration? Ie, in history this problem exists too. Go to an archive and they sometimes ask what exactly you want to see from a box. My answer is often: idk, I'd like to see the whole box. Smaller archives allow that--theyre the best.
@SoilManDan@BrightInsight6@BAJRjobs@drleeclare new question @FlintDibble
If we wait to excavate until some future date, what's the standard for knowing when technology is good enough?
I get Flint's point about the scrolls. Makes sense to me. But I'm still not fully buying leaving so much buried and therefore unknown
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 I'll watch it. Thanks. That said, you did jump on me right away for having questions. This is sort of my argument about communicating with the public.
I can tag him. I didn't tag you.
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 I'm fine with slow. Be careful, etc... but to do the excavation. Dr Clare has said he isn't interested. If unwrapping scrolls destroy them, don't do it. But rubble, sediment, dirt, and more can be sampled, recorded for later etc... I don't understand what's being destroyed.
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 I get specific research questions, but doesn't uncovering entirely new and unknown facts--discovery--play any role? We don't know what we don't know, or something like that.
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 Ok, i get that, but is there a reason some of it was excavated while the rest not. Surely we shouldn't have excavated any of it then?
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 I guess leaving it unexcavated is a little alien to me. Seeing Dr. Clare talk about praying at the site and not excavating strikes me as odd. In history, we want all possible facts, evidence, etc...
@FlintDibble@BrightInsight6 I'm not saying anything about mystery. My main issue has now become how this has all been communicated. For instance, my basic questioning gets you saying I'm in a cult. Are there other sites with large pillars like GT where we just leave it purposefully?