@mrmojobones@Catholic_bro Yes. I am washed clean by Jesus' blood. We won't ever be good enough for heaven, but Jesus qualifies us. No one is good but God. There is no amount of sin too dirty for his blood.
@Catholic_bro Let me make this clear. I dont disagree that there CAN be redemption for those who didnt make it to heaven. My perspective is what you consider purgatory is hell to us. Rev 20 describes there being a second judgement for those in hades according to their works in life.
@Catholic_bro 1 corin 3 is making this allusion to this. Its not necessary to go through this "purgatory" because if Christ is your foundation, your house wont fall when tested by fire. If your house falls without Christ as the foundation, you are subject to judgement on the final day.
@marfleres@Catholic_bro Purgatory doesnt sound like a reward brother. It sounds like hell. If you want to believe that Jesus would send you to burning flames to atone for your works thats fine but ill believe that i sin no more through Christ. Godspeed.
@MJSeverson24@sola_chad The apostolic church traditions and many protestant denominations can both be corrupted while at the same time offering some wisdom. Jesus made this clear to the pharisees and saduccees.
@marfleres@Catholic_bro I dont disagree that our works will determine our reward but getting to heaven isnt the full reward. Your faith in Christ gets you to heaven, your faith through works will determine different rewards in heaven. A martyr will get a different reward than a bishop. Both go to heaven
@Catholic_bro@HabitualLinest There will be a new heaven combined with earth and the rest will be in the lake of fire/abyss. If you go to punishment after this life, then your foundation was not Christ.
@Catholic_bro@HabitualLinest "The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works." β Revelation 20:13 (NKJV)
The current hell and heaven is temporary.
@HabitualLinest@Catholic_bro I can see how catholics interpret that verse however thats an allusion to hell still. Revelations makes that distinction where in the end of days, hades will give up the dead and they will be judged according to their works. Genuine Christ followers wont go there.
@Moderatemuch Church fathers can both be wise about certain things and ignorant about others. Nobody is ever correct about everything. Even the apostles disagreed on things. We must measure every word spoken through the words of Christ and not submit to words of men but of God.
@themarianbro Because that is a demonic image created by pagans. Mary is not a european white woman. Many of the apostolic church leaders will be rebuked the same way the Pharisees were. Mark 7 "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions. "
@MercifulMessage Gen 3:17 actually blames adam for listening to his wife after knowing better
1 corin 7:12 gives permission to either men or woman to let an unbeliever leave
1 corin 7:10 tells both woman and men not to divorce and to reconcile instead of being with other people
@fawzydawah Muslims hate Paul cuz Jesus sent him rather than their illiterate, child molesting retard of a false prophet. Rev 12:10 "And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented..."