The biggest vulnerability of the postwar liberal consensus is that itโs boring. โAll people are the same; all places must become the same; everyone must โbe nice;โ an entire subspectrum of human thought & emotion is too dangerous to even mention.โ The idea that life could be different from this, that it could be dangerous and fascinating, that history could continue, is extremely seductive
@ducktales2020@kumkwer No, the dying is different, but I mean, no two deaths are exactly the same. The results however are. All are equal after death. And yes, sure adoptees have harder lives than others, but are you really going to tell them it'd be better if they were never born?
@ducktales2020@kumkwer This argument is really ignoring the option of just putting the child up for adoption. There's no need for anyone to keep a child they didn't want.
Besides, what is the fundamental difference between a dead and an unborn being? Both share the same experience, don't they?
Goth is now bourgeois. BDSM is mainstream. Nihilism is mainstream. Pornography is mainstream. Depression is mainstream. Suicide is mainstream. Loneliness is mainstream. Misanthropy is mainstream. Goth is now mainstream because everything goth represents has been absorbed into our culture.
@ducktales2020@kumkwer But certainly having a lower quality of life is better than being dead, no? Besides, in the US, less that 3% of all abortions are health-related.
Still, I must reiterate that _legally_ speaking, I am pro-choice, but I'm not going to pretend abortion is always _morally_ good.
@FireFlyJars@ducktales2020@kumkwer Of course, I'm not equating it to a "full human life" either. I think value of life inherently comes from ability to experience. So, I'd equate a fetus of some months to some sort of small animal in value. Which, I'd also prefer not to kill if given a choice.
@FireFlyJars@ducktales2020@kumkwer Well, no, it's obviously *alive*. I'm not even calling the fetus a child, or even a sentient human. But it without any doubt is a living being.
@ducktales2020@kumkwer I think killing things is generally bad. If there's a solution where nothing needs to be killed, that's the better one. That's really the core of it.
Associating death with negativity is a reasonable thing in my view.
Gen X and Millennial sarcasm has literally slowed scientific progress. The AIs were trained on 20 years' worth of bitter, mean-spirited forum posts and it's got them in a pessimistic mindset. Chickens coming home to roost.
@stupidcaveman@CarnCrusader@iuserandompfps@RAWigger I mean, he did say the following: "My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) โ or to 'unconstitutional' Monarchy." But yes, not really "anarchist" in the common sense.