Summary
Full text of the audience between Pope Paul VI and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on September 11, 1976, as recorded in Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre, Volume 1, Chapter 14.
Complete SSPX Transcript
The Holy Father was lively enough at the beginning—one could almost call it somewhat violent in a way: one could feel that he was deeply wounded and rather provoked by what we are doing. He said to me:
“You condemn me, you condemn me. I am a Modernist. I am a Protestant. It cannot be allowed, you are doing an evil work, you ought not to continue, you are causing scandal in the Church, etc...” with nervous irritability.
I kept quiet, you may be sure. After that he said to me: “Well, speak now, speak. What have you to say?”
I said to him: “Holy Father, I come here, but not as the head of the traditionalists. You have said I am head of the traditionalists. I deny flatly that I am head of the traditionalists. I am only a Catholic, a priest, a bishop, among millions of Catholics, thousands of priests and other bishops who are torn and pulled apart in conscience, in mind, in heart. On the one side we desire to submit to you entirely, to follow you in everything, to have no reserves about your person, and on the other side we are aware that the lines taken by the Holy See since the Council, and the whole new orientation, turn us away from your predecessors. What then are we to do? We find ourselves obliged either to attach ourselves to your predecessors or to attach ourselves to your person and separate ourselves from your predecessors. For Catholics to be torn like that is unheard of, unbelievable."
"And it is not I who have provoked that, it is not a movement made by me, it is a feeling that comes from the hearts of the faithful, millions of the faithful whom I do not know. I have no idea how many there are. They are all over the world, everywhere. Everybody is uneasy about this upset that has happened in the Church in the last ten years, about the ruins accumulating in the Church."
"Here are examples: there is a basic attitude in people, an interior attitude which makes them now unchangeable. They will not change because they have chosen: they have made their choice for Tradition and for those who maintain Tradition. There are examples like that of the religious Sisters I saw two days ago, good religious who wish to keep their religious life, who teach children as their parents want them to be taught—many parents bring their children to them because they will receive a Catholic education from these religious. So, here are religious keeping their religious habit; and just because they wish to preserve the old prayer and to keep the old catechism they are excommunicated. The Superior General has been dismissed. The bishop has been five times, requiring them to abandon their religious habit because they have been reduced to the lay state. People who see that do not understand."
"And, side by side with that, nuns who discard their habit, return to all the worldly vanities, no longer have a religious rule, no longer pray—they are officially approved by bishops, and no one says a word against them! The man in the street, the poor Christian, seeing these things cannot accept them. That is impossible. Then it is the same for priests. Good priests who say their Mass well, who pray, who are to be found in the confessional, who preach true doctrine, who visit the sick, who wear their soutane, who are true priests loved by their people because they keep the Old Mass, the Mass of their ordination, who keep the old catechism, are thrown on the street as worthless creatures, all but excommunicated. And then priests go into factories, never dress as priests so that there is no knowing what they are, preach revolution—and they are officially accepted, and nobody says anything to them. As for me, I am in the same case. I try to make priests, good priests as they were made formerly; there are many vocations, the young men are admired by the people who see them in trains, on the underground; they are greeted, admired, congratulated on their dress and bearing; and I am suspended a divinis! And the bishops who have no more seminarians, no young priests, nothing, and whose seminaries no longer make good priests—nothing is said to them! You understand; the poor average Christian sees it clearly. He has chosen and he will not budge. He has reached his limit. It is impossible.”
“That is not true. You do not train good priests,” he said to me, “because you make them take an oath against the Pope.”
“What!” I answered. “An oath against the Pope? I who, on the contrary, try to give them respect for the Pope, respect for the successor of Peter! On the contrary, we pray for the Holy Father, and you will never be able to show me this oath which they take against the Pope. Can you give me a copy of it?”
Then the Holy Father said to me, further: “It is true, is it not, that you condemn me?” I had the strong impression that it all came back rather to his person, that he was personally hurt: “You condemn me, so what ought I to do? Must I hand in my resignation and let you take my place?”
“Oh!” I put my head in my hands. “Holy Father, do not say such things. No, no, no, no!” I then said: “Holy Father, let me continue. You have the solution of the problem in your hands. You need say only one word to the bishops: receive fraternally, with understanding and charity all those groups of traditionalists, all those who wish to keep the prayer of former days, the sacraments as before, the catechism as before. Receive them, give them places of worship, settle with them so that they can pray and remain in relation with you, in intimate relation with their bishops. You need say only one word to the bishops and everything will return to order and at that moment we shall have no more problems. Things will return to order. As for the seminary, I myself shall have no difficulty in going to the bishops and asking them to implant my priests in their dioceses: things will be done normally. I myself am very willing to renew relations with a commission you could name from the Congregation of Religious to come to the seminary. But clearly we shall keep and wish to continue the practice of Tradition. We should be allowed to maintain that practice. But I want to return to normal and official relations with the Holy See and with the Congregations. Beyond that I want nothing.”
He then said to me: “I must reflect, I must pray, I must consult the Consistory, I must consult the Curia. I cannot give you an answer. We shall see.”
After that he said to me: “We will pray together.” I said: “Most willingly, Holy Father.” We then said the Pater Noster, Veni Creator, and an Ave Maria.
Archbishop Vigano is right to fear for his life @CarloMVigano
There are murderers in the Church
These four priests were murdered for investigating clergy sex abuse of children and homosexual networks:
Monsignor Francis J. O’Connor was found drowned in 1966 with fractures to the larynx and hyoid bone in his throat. He was investigating reports about adolescents living at the Working Boys Home who allegedly were being sexually abused by priests of the Buffalo Diocese.
Fr Alfred Joseph Kunz was found ritually murdered on March 4, 1998. Fr. Kunz was investigating allegations of sexual abuse, financial misconduct, and homosexual networks within the Catholic clergy.
Father John Minkler, a priest of the Albany Diocese, was found dead in 2004. Three days before his death, Minkler was identified as having been the author of a letter to New York’s Cardinal O’Connor in which “he detailed ‘a ring of homosexual Albany priests’ including Bishop Howard Hubbard’s alleged long-term homosexual relationships with two younger priests.”
Father Joseph Moreno was found dead in 2012. His death was made to look like suicide. He was gathering evidence and preparing to blow the whistle on systemic clergy sexual abuse in the Diocese of Buffalo
Archbishop Vigano named names and exposed the homosexual network at the very top of the Church. They will never forget or forgive this.
https://t.co/nS1KBreDup
@KeithNester1 I recently tried this approach with a non-Catholic, "who decides what it means to be a Christian?". He dodged the dilema but I wonder why? What keeps people from seeing and dealing with the issue of authority im your opinion?
@BishStrick with respect your Excellecy, no thank you. Abp. Vigano has the right approach to V2. Trash bin it. Because it is written in a confusing and ambigous way which is uncharitable to the faithful. It contains things that directly contradict the constant teaching of the Church.
Listen to every word of this.
Imagine being a J6er.
Your life was destroyed for supporting Donald Trump.
Careers gone. Families wrecked. Years stolen. Many rotting in prison.
All for Trump, and a movement you believed in.
Then the same government that weaponized the DOJ against you calls you a baby and tells you to put a diaper on.
Every MAGA supporter was lied to.
We were used.
We were betrayed.
And the people who suffered the most are still being mocked by the ones who they helped get elected.
MAGA was a scam.
In lethal injection, a powerful anesthetic is given first because concentrated potassium chloride causes searing, fire like pain as it travels through the veins.
A paralytic follows, then the potassium chloride to stop the heart.
Without anesthesia, the person would experience that agony while conscious.
In late term abortions, the same potassium chloride (or digoxin) is injected into the unborn child’s heart or umbilical cord to stop the heartbeat before the procedure.
No anesthetic is given to the child.
Pain receptors are present, neural pathways are functional, and research shows premature infants of similar age are actually more sensitive to pain than full term newborns, partly because the pathways that normally dampen pain signals are not yet mature.
The same chemical that requires anesthesia for a condemned prisoner is delivered to an unborn child with none.
Ultrasound has documented fetal movement and signs of distress during the process.
People who are okay with this, are sick.
RABBI SHMULEY: “The Jewish people must be feared. That’s why we killed Ishmael Haniyeh in the heart of Tehran. Why aren’t we going after Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson? We’re going to bring the fight to our enemies.”
Shmuley calls for the assassination of Candace and Tucker.
in un’epoca che ha smarrito il senso del corpo — che lo idolatra e insieme lo profana, che lo manipola e lo dissolve in ideologie estranee al disegno del Creatore — la festa odierna ci ricorda che il corpo dell’uomo non è un accidente da cui l’anima anelerebbe liberarsi, ma parte costitutiva di quella persona che Nostro Signore è venuto a redimere integralmente, mediante la propria Incarnazione. Maria assunta in cielo, anima e corpo, è la primizia e la garanzia della nostra stessa risurrezione: pegno che nessuna filosofia moderna, nessuna teologia evanescente, nessuna nota di impresentabili porporati potrà mai cancellare dal Credo che professiamo.
A Lei, dunque, Regina assunta in cielo, affidiamo oggi la Chiesa che tanto soffre; a Lei chiediamo che, come schiacciò fin dal principio la testa del serpente antico, così voglia schiacciare anche l’apostasia che oggi insidia il gregge di suo Figlio. Che Ella, Arca della Nuova Alleanza assunta nel santuario del Cielo, ottenga a questa povera Chiesa peregrinante la grazia di ritornare, senza più tentennamenti, alla pienezza della Fede e del culto che i Padri ci hanno trasmesso.
Dear Schismatics,
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🚨 THEY WERE HARVESTING ORGANS FROM LIVING PEOPLE 🚨
Secretary Kennedy just dropped the most horrifying bombshell in American medical history:
U.S. hospitals and organ networks were cutting organs out of patients who were STILL ALIVE… still showing signs of life… still fighting.
“That’s horrifying — and it ends now.”
This isn’t medicine.
This is industrial-scale murder wearing a white coat.
Federal investigators found dozens of cases.
Patients thrashing. Crying. Shaking their heads.
And the “donation” teams kept going.
Kennedy is declaring total war.
Decertifications. Investigations. A full purge of the transplant system.
The veil has been ripped off.
The medical underworld just got exposed in broad daylight.
Share this before they try to bury it.
The American people deserve to know what was being done in the name of “saving lives.”
#HarvestedAlive #RFKJr #OrganHarvesting
🚨 THIS SHOULD TERRIFY EVERY AMERICAN 🚨
A living man woke up on the operating table…
as doctors were already cutting into him to harvest his organs.
T.J. Hoover opened his eyes.
He thrashed.
He cried.
He grabbed the surgeon’s hand — begging them to stop while they prepared to take his body apart.
He was supposed to be dead.
They almost killed him for parts.
This is not a movie.
This is America’s organ donation system.
RFK Jr. and HHS just took drastic action because of horror stories like this.
How many more almost died?
How many actually did?
Share this.
Wake people up.
In questo video *della diretta streaming di venerdì 7 luglio 2026 in collegamento telefonico con l’avvocato Reiner Füllmich, dal minuto 1:25:11 al minuto 1:27:37, viene letto il mio messaggio di spirituale vicinanza e di solidarietà.
“Caro Dr Reiner Fuellmich, con profondo dolore e indignazione apprendo che Lei continua a languire in carcere, privato della libertà da quasi tre anni per aver osato indagare e denunciare pubblicamente le menzogne e i crimini compiuti durante la cosiddetta “pandemia”.
La Sua detenzione prolungata, al di là di ogni pretesto giuridico, costituisce un atto di persecuzione politica. Chi ha avuto il coraggio di cercare la verità e di dar voce a milioni di persone private dei propri diritti fondamentali viene oggi trattato come un nemico dello Stato, mentre coloro che hanno architettato e imposto una delle più gravi operazioni di controllo sociale e di danno all’umanità restano impuniti e spesso onorati.
La giustizia che confonde la ricerca della verità con un reato costituisce una collaborazione con il tiranno.
Le esprimo la mia piena solidarietà e la mia preghiera. La Sua testimonianza non è vana. La verità, per quanto calpestata, non può essere cancellata.
Chiedo a tutti gli uomini di buona volontà di elevare la voce perché sia liberato immediatamente e perché sia resa giustizia a quanti, come Lei, hanno pagato e stanno pagando il prezzo della propria integrità morale e intellettuale.
Non è l’avvocato Fuellmich che dovrebbe essere in carcere, ma coloro che hanno perpetrato il più grande crimine contro l’umanità dei nostri tempi.
Dio La sostenga e La liberi presto.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Arcivescovo”
Auspico che l’appello lanciato per la liberazione del dott. Füllmich non rimanga inascoltato.
https://t.co/KZZUGRS8UO
C’est le cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, préfet du Dicastère pour la doctrine de la foi, qui a signé, le 2 juillet 2026, le décret d’« excommunication » frappant les évêques consécrateurs et consacrés de la FSSPX, et menaçant de la même sanction les prêtres et fidèles qui adhéreraient au « schisme ».
Cette utilisation du Droit canon n’est pas hors-sol, elle s’inscrit dans le cadre du magistère « liquide » de l’Église « synodale ». En effet, cette « excommunication » est décrétée par un prélat qui fut la plume du pape François pour qui il rédigea Amoris lætitia [2016] autorisant les divorcés civilement remariés à communier, ainsi que Fiducia supplicans [2023] permettant la bénédiction des couples de même sexe.
En passant, rappelons que Víctor Manuel Fernández, avant d’être l’éminence qu’il est devenu par la grâce de François, est l’auteur de deux ouvrages Sáname con tu boca : El arte de besar [Guéris-moi avec ta bouche : l’art du baiser, 1995], et La pasión mística : espiritualidad y sensualidad [La passion mystique : spiritualité et sensualité, 1998]. Les titres éloquents de ces livres – jamais rétractés – disent que la tempérance est une vertu cardinale… sauf pour le cardinal Fernández.
Aujourd’hui ce prélat est le porte-plume de Léon XIV, signant pour lui un décret d’« excommunication ». Une question se pose : quel est le préfet qui signera le décret sanctionnant l’autorisation de la communion des divorcés remariés et la bénédiction des couples homosexuels ? Car ni le cardinal Fernández ni les papes qu’il sert docilement, ne sont au-dessus de la loi divine sur le mariage et de la loi naturelle sur la distinction des sexes.
Ces lois seraient-elles maintenant caduques, au prétexte qu’il faut s’adapter aux mœurs actuelles ? L’Église n’a-t-elle plus à suivre intégralement le Décalogue ou la loi sur le mariage chrétien ? Ne lui en déplaise, Son Éminence n’est pas dispensée d’obéissance ; son chapeau de cardinal ne doit pas lui faire perdre la tête. Dans l’Église, l’autorité est au service de la Vérité révélée, et non des idéologies qui passent.
Cette conception élastique de la doctrine et de la morale expose le récent décret d’« excommunication » à un discrédit certain. Le fait d’être « excommunié » par les partisans d’Amoris lætitia et de Fiducia supplicans est le signe que l’Église « synodale » rejette les évêques, prêtres et fidèles qui n’adhèrent pas à ses doctrines hétérodoxes. Quelle est donc la valeur de ce rejet opportunément qualifié d’« excommunication » ?
Être aujourd’hui condamné par ceux que la Tradition constante de l’Église condamne, est une épreuve, mais aussi une preuve d’orthodoxie. https://t.co/FpvBIeAOt6
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RFK Jr. Decertifies Network for Hope Over Patient Safety Failures Involving Organ Harvesting Processes Initiated on Patients Showing Signs of Life
The organ procurement organization serving Kentucky and parts of Ohio, West Virginia, and Indiana.
Investigations by HHS/HRSA, CMS, and congressional oversight found persistent patient-safety failures which shockingly included organ-recovery processes even when patients showed signs of being ALIVE.
https://t.co/LWLH8lyzjH