#Illini tight ends coach Jared Elliott says Christian Abney has filled a leadership role:
"I've been very proud of Christian throughout Spring."
"We've got a great group of guys."
I’m not a fan of using anecdotes in conversations like this, but I’ll give my personal experience and observations anyway. We have homeschooled our kids the past two years. My son is a 5th grader and my daughter is a 1st grader. The academic aspect has been wonderful. It’s has provided us a ton of freedom and efficiency. But I have also witnessed many homeschool families that don’t set very high expectations for their children academically. Those kids are well behind grade level. My belief is that they would be in the same boat whether in school or not. If the parents don’t care, the kids won’t either regardless of how good the teachers are.
The social aspect has been miserable. Most (and I use this word intentionally) homeschool kids and parents are every bit as weird as the stereotypes portray. We have enrolled our kids back in private school for next year simply because it’s too difficult to replicate the social development that a school setting provides while homeschooling.
In equal settings, having knowledge of “how” to teach is definitely important. Most homeschool parents would be better off hiring a tutor with formal training than trying to educate on their own, but having individualized instruction from a competent parent is more important than being 1 of 30 taught by a trained teacher.
@Blarfk@currermell@quesadaaa_ Them performing better is not evidence, but the trend lines are for sure a piece of evidence. While it’s not enough information to draw a conclusion on its own, it’s one data point that points towards individualized time being more important than a formal teaching background.
@Blarfk@currermell@quesadaaa_ Okay. 🤣 I WAY over-read your post. My apologies. That is obviously true. I think I’m just in a contrarian mood and was hoping to debate someone. Thanks so much for taking the (unintentional) bait.
I may have misunderstood your argument in your original post. I read it as you were saying that you believed public schooling was superior to home schooling because the teachers took some education classes in college. It sounds like now that you are reserving your opinion until more data is available. I am tracking now?
@Blarfk@currermell@quesadaaa_ Let me make sure I have you’re argument correct. Are you saying that the kids that homeschool would perform equally as well had they been enrolled in public schools?
It’s a simple chain of reasoning. Homeschoolers outperform public schoolers on almost every metric. This is a provable fact. No one argues that parent involvement is the biggest indicator of a child’s success. Students are going to benefit more from one on one time than in a mass learning factory that is a public school classroom. It’s hard not to conclude that the individualized time and learning setting carries more weight than an instructor with a pedagogical background.
So who was responsible then if not for the people educating the child?
Also, the gap is less important than the trend lines. A gap is expected because more unprepared public schoolers take the exam than with homeschoolers. Unprepared homeschoolers usually don’t sign up for the test. The trend lines are the evidence. Public schoolers are performing worse year over year while homeschoolers continue to improve.
It’s not necessarily that the article is “wrong”. It just doesn’t prove anything. It actually works against your argument to an extent. It highlights that parental involvement matters more than the formal education setting.
P.S. Thank you for having a rational chat. It’s much appreciated. Those are rare on this platform.
It is 100% true. The article you linked proves nothing. The only valid point it makes is about the math gap. You also provided a very biased source. I’ll provide something that is pure fact and inherently unbiased. Let’s focus on the metric of the ACT. As you can see public school scores have been consistently on the decline for about two decades, while the other two groups have been improving.
@Blarfk@currermell@quesadaaa_ If the field of pedagogy actually has an innate value, explain why homeschoolers outperform public schoolers in almost every metric.
This person may not be smart enough to homeschool their kids, but the vast majority of homeschool parents are. This is evidenced by the fact that homeschoolers outperform public schoolers on almost every metric. Teaching is not hard!
I get that @BenjaminSWatson did not feel called to pursue a coaching career and I respect that. I also understand that his first priority is to his wife and children and coaching is a MASSIVE commitment, but imagine the impact he could have had had he pursued a coaching career. He definitely has the makings of the next @TonyDungy.
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