@NightCityTimes@AmericanPresby Christian.
Virgins are rare indeed. But it’s the only concrete way to reduce divorce rate. I kept myself virgin and kissless till my marriage at age 30. It can be done.
This is the best filter men have. Use it. Let the rest of the whores stay single. Don’t marry one.
@NightCityTimes@AmericanPresby That’s just extinction.
Find a virgin wife and marry as a virgin. Closer to 5% divorce rate than 50%.
In 3 states you can get covenant marriages, which don’t allow for no fault divorces.
There are working options.
@grappigekat@ty_mi_smi@NordishDynamite We said string? Really? As if a chicken possessed with an evil mind as creative as Sauron’s wouldn’t just peck at it.
A metal chain would fair better, until the chicken threw the ring away at the most inopportune moment as the ring would’ve asked.
That’s the problem with shit tests (indirect tests) in general.
They create confusion on both sides.
If the test giver is real/fake. If the taker wants to pass/fail. Whether the taker thinks the giver is real/fake. And whether the direct question deserves a true or false answer independently.
You get 16 scenarios and many where one or both parties interpret the result wrong.
I’d suggest just adopting the practice that, in dating, shit testing doesn’t exist. This reduces miscommunication and acts as a filter itself.
If someone proposes a shit test whose independent answer is false, you will fail their shit test. This will screen them out of your dating pool, which you want because they asked you to be dishonest, and that itself is toxic.
Your suggestion to acknowledge that others may be involved in shit testing is, itself, toxic. Because shit tests don’t work if people treat them strictly as value questions. They only work because people recognize and respond to the indirect question.
Say we’ve got some psycho who wants a slave for a wife. Assume also the woman in question dating him doesn’t also want this, since we’ve got some weird couple dynamics out there. But she’s also modest. Dude asks her to dress modestly, she does, now dude thinks she’s a compliant slave. He just mislead himself because the next time a control question comes up, she’s not in the frame of submission. She only said yes last time because the correct answer for her was yes. Next time it may be no. It’s only when she answers yes in spite of being immodest that she submits to the control frame. And the only reason she’d do that is if she acknowledged it was a shit test and the correct answer was supposed to be yes.
@MarinaMurphy93@ThePikajou@BreeSolstad Disagree. Asking a woman to dress more modestly is a legitimate value check.
In order to accept the frame you’re purporting, you must first implicitly accept the value that “modesty is not important”. You’re begging the question.
@MarinaMurphy93@ThePikajou@BreeSolstad No, that’s not clear, because the breakdown of the analogy tells us a lot about differing standards.
By this comparison, men want women to be modest and women want men’s money.
Shit tests test values indirectly. Asking about modesty is a direct test.
@MaximilianS44G3@Adriana19Flower@Gmeister7 You can get covenant marriages in 3 states in the US without no fault divorce options.
But yeah, prenups don’t do much. You can do 50-50 marital asset splits pretty easily, but anything else gets thrown out.
@MaximilianS44G3@Adriana19Flower@Gmeister7 Your data is flawed, my friend.
Divorce rate is indeed high if either party has not saved themselves for marriage. Mutual virgins is almost 5%.
@scarrednstoned@Adriana19Flower Not sure how you get from “women should not teach men” to “women belong to men”.
And that’s still setting aside to whom that letter was written (a leader of a church filled with gossip and false teachings) and what purpose the instruction serves…
@scarrednstoned@Adriana19Flower You’re very imprecise here.
Women don’t belong to men. They belong to their husband.
Women are treated as the “weaker partner” by their husband. They are inherently evil too, but so are the men so…
The husband / wife bond is perhaps the most important in society.
@memeticsisyphus Exit taxes and other ways to stop you from moving are most likely unconstitutional.
“Billionaire taxes” don’t help states tax billionaires. They encourage billionaires to leave and take their high revenue streams to other states. Less taxes on billionaires not more. Oops.
@Adriana19Flower@Gmeister7 Mature men realize there’s no point in making such women wives and instead seek out mature women who saved themselves for marriage just as they did.
Then they learn to love through conflicts and become unbreakable through commitment and integrity.
@mattsilv@Aryan_Anya@blakeir Pretty sure you just made it worse.
You just said you made 10k and lost 10k. IRS says you pay gains on 10k and can deduct only 9k of your losses.
You went from “I get to deduct 10k” to “I’m paying taxes on 1k I never even got.”
@Agentl074@milksleepy_@JasonBassler1 “Over 70% of the public doesn’t want this… on both sides”
So Congress has no motivation to do anything.
You do realize Congress has virtually no motivation to do anything new or useful if both parties agree. It’s not a win vs the other party, so there’s no motive.
@Contra_Flash Because they have a two party system.
Americans would be foolish not to vote for the lesser of two evils. That’s how you get the greater evil.
As for improving beyond the 2nd worst option, well… no easy way to convince Congress to give up their power.
@N0tThatSimple@MartinLogicing@freethinker967 Eh.
Patrick also expressed a religious belief as a logical one (it is certain). You can argue that necessitates a proof. I’d argue you can prove the opposite, given certain assumptions.
@N0tThatSimple@MartinLogicing@freethinker967 What’s funny is the person you’re quoting is on the right.
Pedantry is correct though.
It is nearly impossible to prove the non-existence of a class of beings, particularly if they are vaguely or not at all defined.