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@Jacob1832Jacob@AlderNate The 3 witnesses saw the plates "with spiritual eyes". Regardless, no one knows what was written on the plates, if anything, like we see with the Kinderhook Plates. The early prophets and leaders testified of spiritual confirmation of the teaching that Adam is God the Father too.
@Jacob1832Jacob@AlderNate In Smith's mind, no one anywhere near in his vicinity could read any form of Egyptian glyphs so whether they were real or fake no one else would be able to tell, including him apparently as he said he translated a portion even though it was just random etchings.
@Jacob1832Jacob@AlderNate My view isn't that Smith fabricated the gold plates, he just didn't translate from them. He told stories to his wife and some others while his face was in a hat with a rock. There's no way to know if those stories had anything to do with anything written on those gold plates.
@Jacob1832Jacob@AlderNate Also, he didn't translate the gold plates at all, so I'm not sure what that has to do with these? He had his face in a hat dictating the book of Mormon without looking at the gold plates.
@Jacob1832Jacob@AlderNate Character*. There was only one character that looked anything like what was in his notes and it means breath, or breathing, not anything to do with a story about lineage.
@PhysInHistory Because a singularity cannot exist. By the universal laws and our understanding or beliefs on general relativity a singularity would be exponentially stronger than a black hole. Even if it could theoretically exist, it could never escape its own state.
@BebopJosh@dttpeople The page number and title are on the top of the page in the image that you can't figure out how to look at in 2026... But sure, I am the idiot here 🤣
@AlderNate Oh, I see what you did. You slipped in "revealed" and such as a disclaimer... trying to get technical to wiggle out of him actually stating he did translate a portion of it even though it was later discovered to be random etchings.
@MillstoneMntn@Apologetics941@The2nd1776 We already know Smith taught a different Elohim and God the Father, that's not even a question. God the Father said He is the First and the Last and Only Elohim, that He is Yahweh and besides Him there is no other, none before or after, He knows none.