Hi CH201ers, there's no discussion after the lecture tomorrow; just the lecture. In lieu of discussion, please contribute two bullet points to our Google Docs review sheet (Mr. Shu's sections). The link is an announcement in canvas. See you tomorrow! #ch1205, #ch1206
Hey CH 201ers, our Thursday, 10/18 lecture is cancelled! Tweets are still due by class time. Please help spread the word to classmates. #ch1002#ch1205#ch1206#ibnish
Hey @MedievalAngie, @Darrenc88879138 brought up a good question in discussion: Who was Virgil's audience for the Aeneid? Was the poem meant to be consumed primarily by the imperial court? Or did it circulate among the masses early on? #ch1002#a3n31d
@bailiecoonrod Great observation. This leads to the question, Why did the Romans attach so much value to the myth of "virginity" in women? #ch1002, #a3n31d
Classical literature is chock-full of incredible, memorable stories. Some of the characters, scenes, and dialogue that appear in Greek and Roman histories would be perfectly at home in modern films. Historians put a lot of great lines in the mouths of ancestors. #ch1002, #a3n31d
@andrewch1205 Emblematic names that like sort of raise the question, Was that his real name? Did he go by something else in his lifetime, and then people later on called him that?
I think the answer to this question is debatable. Achilles takes a rude tone with Agamemnon from his first speech, but I think it's Achilles's support for Calchas, the "bird-reader supreme," that compels Agamemnon to take Briseis from Achilles out of spite.
Plot Review: In Book 9 of the Odyssey, Odysseus and his crew arrive at the Cyclops's cave while he is away. Why don't Odysseus and his men leave the cave before the Cyclops returns?
O got greedy and stayed to see if the Cyclops would give him better loot. "From the start my comrades pressed me, pleading hard...But I would not give way—and how much better it would have been—not till I saw him, saw what gifts he'd give." p. 218
The house of death is correct. O journeys to the land of the dead. He talks to his mother, Anticleia, and Achilles, among other deceased. This journey fits a pattern in ancient literature where great heroes cross to the other side of life and return to tell about it #ch1002
Achilles does three of these things to Agamemnon, but I think there is one of these that is arguably the cause of the beef between them. Which of these is the root cause?
@mangelined1 I think your point is interesting. Many of the rules I saw seemed to serve multiple purposes. In this case, agricultural fields benefit from resting, and I also heard that it might be a way to help the poor: people in need could take the unharvested food from the field #hebbib
I worked in a kosher grocery store in Skokie, IL for several years. Some of the kosher rules are very complex. Vineyards must rest every 7 years. Wine made from that seventh year harvest is not kosher. #hebbib
@MedievalAngie @andrewch1205 I also wonder what the Adam and Eve story might have looked like and signified before the Ancient Hebrew version. Was there a less patriarchal version of Adam and Eve circulating in the ancient world. Do relics of this earlier version survive in the Ancient Hebrew version?
@medievalbrian I'm trying to think of situations in other texts we've read where a deity might work as a "hero" of the story, but it's difficult. It seems important in the epics we've read that the hero be partially human.