@doctoriaindarcy@LBC@NickFerrariLBC No respect for Karen Pollock anymore. Like so many people at the moment she seems to have lost the moral high ground. Her stance does nothing for the standing of Jews.
1/15 This Historic Lie, that the ratio of civilians to combatants killed in Gaza is "one of the lowest ratios in history in urban warfare," is pushed by frauds like @BillAckman, @spencerguard, & @netanyahu.
As this ๐งต shows, the ratio will likely be the highest this century.
@ScottforFlorida@NYCMayor The worst thing about this is that you're a US veteran @ScottforFlorida. You bring shame on your comrades in arms, through your rampant misrepresentation of the truth.
@LeftBrexit I don't think it's overdoing it to list the names of people who died serving their country, who have just been insulted by a foreign leader, no
Itโs not unhinged of @ZackPolanski to suggest the UK is complicit in genocide. That is beyond serious argument.
Nor to question the UKโs US-dependent nuclear weapons. A credible security policy for the UK will certainly need to move beyond the fantasies of nuclear deterrence.
@LarryOConnor I'll reply to you, Larry. You're way off target. Your assessment is simplistic to the point of political and ethical absurdity, or downright dishonesty. Will you reply? We'll see.
@lance_murdoch Just so you understand that what you are laughing it as little children being gassed and whole families being shot and buried in mass graves and members of my own family being murdered. And to laugh at that makes you both complete tossers. Have a nice day,
@MattWi start with this post, I suggest. And follow @nxt888. You will learn a lot. Bye bye. You and I are done. I like to engage with well-read people.
You packed a lot of confusion into four sentences, Ezra, so let me untangle it slowly.
First, this line:
"So where is Israel's ancestral homeland if not Israel?"
You are doing what Zionism always does.
You take a religious or mythic claim that some Jews have a spiritual connection to a piece of land and you inflate it into a modern property deed for a 21st-century ethnostate.
Ancestry is not a land title.
If it were, half the planet would be on ships going back to somewhere else.
Most Jews alive today do not have continuous, lived, generational ties to that land.
Most Palestinians do.
That is the difference you keep skipping.
"Ancestral homeland" for you is a slogan.
For them it is the house key, the family orchard, the graveyard, and the village your side turned into a pine forest.
Second:
"They don't have a right to exist you suggest?"
No state on earth has a mystical "right to exist."
States are political arrangements.
They are born, split, reunify, collapse, get renamed.
People have the right to exist.
People have the right to safety, dignity, and return.
When someone asks "Does Israel have a right to exist," what they usually mean is:
"Do Jews have the right to live in Palestine without being slaughtered or expelled?"
The answer to that is obviously yes.
But that is not what your slogan is doing.
"Right to exist" in this context means:
"Does a self-defined Jewish state have the right to maintain a demographic majority and political supremacy even if it requires dispossession, siege, and permanent second-class status for the original inhabitants?"
That is not a right.
That is a demand for eternal impunity.
You can have equal rights for everyone between the river and the sea.
Or you can have a Jewish ethnocracy.
You cannot have both.
The "right to exist" language is just your way of avoiding saying out loud which one you choose.
Third:
"Palestinians have long lived alongside Israel in Gaza strip for millennia"
Israel has not existed for millennia.
Gaza has not always been a fenced-in strip.
You are mashing words together to hide the timeline.
For millennia, there were people living in that land: Canaanites, Philistines, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs, and many others in between.
What you call "Israel" today is a modern state built in 1948 on top of their continuity.
Gaza as we know it now is not some cute example of coexistence.
It is the concentrated result of ethnic cleansing.
It is where many of the refugees from the villages your side emptied ended up.
They did not "live alongside Israel."
They were fenced, bombed, starved, and periodically massacred by it.
So let me answer you plainly.
Israel's "ancestral homeland" is the same soil where Palestinians planted their olive trees, buried their parents, and passed down their houses long before your state had a flag.
I am not saying Jews have no place there.
I am saying no group gets to turn myth into a weapon, erase the people already living there, and then hide behind the sacred phrase "right to exist" every time someone points to the bodies.
If Palestine truly stood as a free, equal land for all its inhabitants, from river to sea, Israel as an exclusivist project would not "stop existing."
It would simply lose its alibi.
the obvious needs to be stated here. Mann's job is to shut down any solidarity with Palestine and shut down any opposition to Israel. that's what he's paid to do. when the state talks about "fighting antisemitism" it's just code for keeping the genocide machine running smoothly.
@MattWi@aradboaz@neontaster But on closer inspection you're evidently a poorly educated geopolitical pigmy, coming up with statements like Greenland was never truly European. Peak irony! Why don't you check out USA history before making specious assertions like that...