@Johnrashton47 I'm very much working for money and my family's material advancement alone, like all others in society, if I had millions and billions I would be making alternative use of my time. I'm not here for charity or to fulfil the public's delusional fantasies re. doctors.
@RMatthewsPsych You can buy pain relief over the counter, you can buy food and water, stop being so entitled. The staff are not lazing around or taking any pleasure in the delay, they're clearly busy and the system is overwhelmed. You are a parent, use common sense and take basic measures.
@AdamPollock@LBC@wesstreeting The NHS/government is a monopsony employer for resident doctors, unlike other professions. It is thus the government's job to provide competitive remuneration and job security if it wants to sustain the current arrangement with our profession, it is failing on both counts ATM.
@AdamPollock@LBC@wesstreeting Yes, but the point is banning strikes is not going to have any desirable effect. Forget about strikes or emigration, if doctors started working to their contract alone, the NHS would collapse overnight. The govt and public don't understand how much goodwill they take for granted.
@AdamPollock@LBC@wesstreeting They are not bound to the UK, its public, or the NHS. UK educated/trained doctors are in demand worldwide, with far better pay/conditions, the ones striking are the ones trying to keep a career in Medicine viable in the UK. They will give up and leave, it won't be their loss.
@Timmy200012@TomHCalver Correct, I don't think most are. Our degree is also not the average degree, it is 6 years long. Clearly immoral but legal is your preference, I hope you suffer the consequences.
@Timmy200012@TomHCalver I was 17 when making that decision, and unable to otherwise afford a university education, most students are in a similar position. If legality devoid of morality is the government/public's approach with us, doctors can also adopt a similar approach, it will not be at our loss.
@withdrdeema@rcolvile@TomHCalver The NHS/UK government is a monopsony employer for resident doctors, so it indeed owes them employment prospects and competitive remuneration. If it fails in that duty, then it deserves to be and will be brought down. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
@rcolvile@TomHCalver Future earnings do not pay current bills, neither do public perceptions. If the extortionate interest on my student loan can use RPI then so can my pay restoration. This is the last effort by doctors for the practice of medicine in the UK, the alternative is the NHS' collapse.
@cauchy_c46250@wesstreeting Indeed, work pressures and workload are even higher than they were in 2008, population is getting merely older, larger, and sicker. You lot are lucky we aren't asking for even more.
@juneslater17@thetimes The everexpanding scope of the NHS, its blindness to its responsibilities towards its employees, and its blindness towards the global context that it sits in, is unsustainable. The goodwill of staff that has kept it afloat has run out, and the results are showing now.
@richardaoneill@pash22@TheBMA@BMAResidents@NHSEngland@TomHCalver I appreciate your consistency of reasoning, however it's academic discussion. It's not like the government is going to reverse what has been done already. This country does not incentivise ambition and success, they seek profit from kids trying to go to university.
@cpeedell@DrMohitBhagia@wesstreeting The government and NHS has a special and unique responsibility towards the wellbeing of our profession, in that is is a monopsony employer, that is the social contract. If they cannot keep up their end of this understanding, the NHS cannot and will not continue.
@AnanyoBagchi@nickngw@DHSCgovuk@wesstreeting@BBCNews It's a race to the bottom in this country, the attitude is that of eating shit oneself and ensuring that others eat it too. Anyone with aspirations or ambition, anyone seeking to excel, meets needless hurdles and hostility from both public and government.
@DHSCgovuk@wesstreeting@BBCNews A 28.9% payrise does not restore the loss of pay we have sustained, you are relying on the mathematical illiteracy of the public to get away with lies. Doctors are long past caring for public perception. The claps during COVID have done fuck all for us.
@cauchy_c46250@wesstreeting Our profession's work/labour is worth no less today than it was in 2008, yet we have seen the largest fall in real-terms pay of any public sector employees. Either the NHS will be made to fall and we can enjoy the private sector, or NHS subsidisation at doctors' expense will end.
@wesstreeting Many NHS staff will never earn as much as doctors, because they have not put in a decade of effort with stellar grades to get into medschool, Β£100k+ debt and 1-2 degrees from going to medschool, and then arduous and expensive postgraduate training. Your comparison is idiotic.