@benzornes While I understand how this advice runs against the grain of how many think, this viewpoint is historically how many Baptists have thought about the issue. Mark Dever is a modern day proponent. He delivered a good sermon on the topic that explores many of the arguments.
Sinful desires can shape your theological convictions.
Many have veered from the path of eternal life by adjusting their theology to fit what they want to be true.
Let God shape your desires by His Word rather than create a god who serves your desires.
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I was able to listen to Andy Stanley’s messages from today on the topic of same-sex attraction and marriage.
What’s clear from Stanley’s teaching is that he’s drawing a distinction between doctrine and pastoral practice. What does that mean? It means the doctrine has not *officially* changed which is why he can technically affirm a “Biblical view,” but for all practical purposes, there is a pastoral accommodation that allows for LGBT-identified persons to disobey Scripture and remain in good standing as a Christian. What Stanley considers as a failure to live up to an unattainable ideal, Scripture calls sinful. Nowhere in the messages was there any expectation that someone would turn from their same-sex relationship. This is an example of unbounded empathy that listens (which is good) but never invites toward transformation (which is not good). For Stanley, if there’s a general commitment to Jesus, that is sufficient. Ethics takes a backseat to empty affirmations of “belief.”
This may sound like a way to split the baby, but it is simply another way of saying that Andy Stanley and North Point Community Church are implicitly affirming of LGBT identities and behaviors as consistent with Christian faith. This explains why Stanley valorizes the Christian faith of LGBT individuals and why, perhaps, no reliable or well-known conservative voice was platformed at the Unconditional Conference. What’s most subversive about today’s messages is Stanley’s gaslighting of anyone who disagrees with him, as though dissent from North Point’s ministry model is soaked in animosity, contempt, and hatred toward LGBT family and friends.
A textbook move of theological liberalism is to sever doctrine from ethics, a severing that the Bible in no way, shape, or form justifies (John 14:15). Stanley is attempting to be more compassionate than Jesus, which is impossible. Scripture embraces truth and love as mutually reinforcing (1 Cor. 13:6). This sort of third-way “quieter middle space” is neither biblically faithful nor practically sustainable.
I should say: Andy Stanley is an acquaintance I’ve spoken with about these issues over the past several years. He’s never been anything less than kind and respectful, so I have no personal animosity in saying this; in fact, I say it with much grief and lament: Andy Stanley is in error, and based on reports I’ve heard of what’s encouraged and promoted at North Point itself through its counseling ministries, the church is leading people down a grave pathway that is unbiblical and therefore harmful to those it claims to serve.
Perhaps one last message-tribute to the man who who shaped how I see and feel everything. My funeral message for Daniel Fuller. I love him.
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We must learn to measure ourselves, not by our knowledge about God, not by our gifts and responsibilities in the church, but by how we pray and what goes on in our hearts.
Many of us, I suspect, have no idea how impoverished we are at this level.
—JI Packer, Knowing God Pg. 32
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Yes. Women need to get in the fight. Some of them have but not nearly enough. It’s time to get serious. There’s only so much men can do to defend womanhood. You all need to step up.
The BudLight boycott was so successful because men are the primary customers and we made it socially unacceptable for other men to drink it. Women must do the same thing to Target now by telling friends they won’t shop there because Target pushed trans products onto little kids.
With great sadness we mourn the loss of TGC co-founder Timothy Keller, 72, who died today, more than three years after he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
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