@BRijswijk@AleMartnezR1@Nemo4334 If a personal creator doesn’t exist (theism) an impersonal creator (deism) may. They are not necessarily linked. Thus, “atheism just rejects theistic claims” is not a good enough definition.
@BRijswijk@AleMartnezR1@Nemo4334 If this were true, then if theism was false, atheism would be true. This is not actually the truth through, because even if theism is false, deism could be true.
Atheism is the position that there is no god. Not that theism makes false claims.
Culturally, people back then worshipped loads of different gods. Baal, Asherah, Molek, etc. If no other gods were being worshipped besides Yahweh at the time, why reference it in a commandment?
Your reading of this is not in line with “followers”. It’s a straw man.
There is a ton of evidence that the Bible is just a collection of historical fictions written by men, but one of the best is that the stories include several gods but modern followers pretend there’s only one deity.
@GodlessLiz I know you say these things to garner response from “religious” people rather than the specific religion you’re calling out, but your conclusion is generally wrong given the majority of religious people reject your premise.
Incoherence reigns. Advocates for democracy & women’s rights, allies of LGBT people, opponents of racism are in the streets supporting religious terror that hates democracy, oppresses women, kills gays, and condemns one ethnicity to annihilation. The left has gone insane.
@GodlessLiz Again no, I am pointing out a historical fact that "good" is a relative term historically. For example, the Mesopotamian and Sumerian people around 6000 BCE practiced slavery. Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Africans, it was permissible for thousands of years.
@GodlessLiz No, I’m saying it’s a mostly modern moral phenomenon that owning other people, generally those of other groups/races, is not permissible or even regular behaviour.
@GodlessLiz No, what I’m saying is that in war there are religious people. This doesn’t mean that because religious people exist in wars, that the war is therefore strictly religious.
People didn’t need “brainwashing” to “own” people. It’s a common thread throughout history.