Someone actually ran the experiment behind the "remote work is fraud" claim. A Stanford economist took 1,612 office workers and split them at random: one group worked from home two days a week, the other came in all five. Six months later, their performance reviews came out the same.
The groups were split by birthday so nobody could rig it, and these weren't call center scripts. They were software engineers, marketers, and finance staff at Trip dot com, one of the biggest travel companies on earth. The work-from-home group was just as likely to get promoted, and quitting dropped by a third. It ran as a controlled trial, the same method drug companies use to test a new pill, and it was published in the journal Nature in 2024.
The same company tried an earlier, rougher version ten years before, and the fear they set out to test was literally called "shirking from home." Call center staff worked four days a week from home for nine months. Output went up 13 percent with no drop in call quality. Most of that came from more minutes worked per shift, fewer breaks and sick days, plus a bit from the quieter room. Quitting got cut in half. The clearest cost showed up in promotions, where the at-home staff lost out, probably because the boss never saw them.
One thing both setups had that the tweet leaves out: a place to work. The earlier study only took people who had a private room at home. Neither one tested getting any work done with a three-year-old and a five-year-old in the house. Trying to write code or do the accounting while solo-parenting two small kids is a fantasy, and nobody is pretending otherwise. The hold-up there is childcare. The studies measured something narrower, whether the same person gets less done from home, and the answer kept coming back no. Bloom's wider data fits this: going fully remote with no office at all gives messy results, while the clear win is the mix, some days home and some in the office.
When 137 of the largest US companies later ordered staff back to the office, a University of Pittsburgh team checked the numbers. Stock value and profits did not improve. Job satisfaction dropped. The mandates tended to arrive right after a bad stretch for the share price.
The fear has a name in the data. Every time someone ran the controlled test, the shirking never showed up in the output.
I just figure CEOs etc who prefer office work would have been citing those studies and shouting them from the rooftops by now
And to be fair, this topic will never be black and white. Office is way better for some people/companies, remote is way better for others
Genuinely curious what studies you’re talking about, and not trying to be a dick. Can you share?
In the last 10 yrs I’ve never seen a study that says productivity declines w/remote work (maybe highly specific examples but none that would pass muster for the greater economy)
Everyone is up in arms over Ryan’s comments but… his take is scientifically correct. Study after study has shown productivity declines with remote work. Every snowflake “exception to the rule” is tearing him down but the numbers don’t lie. It’s one reason we don’t invest in remote teams.
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- to drink: Katy Trail Ice House, Inwood Tavern (dive), HG Sply (rooftop)
- to eat: Saint Ann (patio), Mi Cocina bc it’s a Dallas staple, Cafe Madrid, Bubba’s Chicken
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@HighyieldHarry Totally agree. What’s the point of the internet and broader technological advancement if it doesn’t allow you to live with more autonomy and give you more time with your loved ones
@aboodman@typesfast Was also surprised at this.
Clearly I advocate for remote work, but I also know it’s not for everyone or every company. All arguments about this should have nuance.
But this is just…. not intellectual at all
Loving the replies. Such a tired, surprisingly halfwit take from two people who cannot relate to 99.9% of the workforce and think they know what’s best for everyone
Why Remote Work is White Collar Fraud.
"I have a three-year-old and a five-year-old. The idea that I could do any work at my house is like a total fantasy.
The kids come home at 3pm, your work day needs to keep going. I'm highly against it." @typesfast