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This also largely ignores how dehumanization works. Even if we were to assume Superman had human parents (in Batman’s eyes) they are still an abstract to him. What connects them is that it’s HIS mother.

That directly puts Superman in the same position as the traumatic event that’s defined Batman’s entire existence. Empathy is able to break through bc Batman can no longer treat Clark as an “other” but someone just like him.

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Pretty sure this is not an acknowledgment of human parents.

Batman literally does not consider Superman a “man” so the idea he’s NOT like him would extend to his more immediate relationships too.

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire I'm not saying it's a complex scene. It was perfectly simple for me to buy into and understand. How do you suggest it could've been improved?

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire Martha is a coincidence that exists and has been canon in the comics for decades. Snyder likely opted to use it because it serves as a more emotionally poignant moment to have it tie back into BM's trauma.

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire No. Had the name been any different it would've ended the same. What Batman is learning here isn't that their moms share the same name. He's learning that SM has love and care for a human. BM sees him as a threat and he's using his last breath to plead BM to save a human.

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire Bruce is undergoing an existential crisis and is in a high stress scenario.

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire The opening death of the Waynes is a nightmare that Bruce is narrating. He relives it. It's his father's last word. Yeah he might hear it out in some gala event but the context of the situations are entirely different. You cannot strip it of its context

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@DestindHellfire @Justarandomacnt You are dismissing the context of the scene.

A life or death battle with a super powerful alien that he's spent 2 years dehumanizing all of the sudden reveals he has a human he cares about. Not to mention Lois who throws herself in-between SM and the spear; vs a gala?

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire That's the point. It isn't an alien name. The alien cares about a human being something that Batman had not given him the grace to consider because he just wanted to dehumanize him. Alfred is the voice of reason he actively ignores.

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@Justarandomacnt @THOMAStheTANK57 @DanteOnDeck Would you care to go into detail and explain exactly why the scene doesn't work for you?

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@Justarandomacnt @DestindHellfire Batman is human. How is he supposed to account for the fact that this alien is going to mention the name 'Martha' of all names? Unrealistic expectations that far exceed any probable protocol Batman could conjure up. This was out of left field.

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@DestindHellfire The events are clearly happening simultaneously.

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@DestindHellfire Person with triggered PTSD acts irrationally, who woulda thunk? Why do you think that he asked him the question? He thinks he's talking about Martha Wayne.

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@Justarandomacnt @THOMAStheTANK57 @DanteOnDeck The constant PTSD flashbacks/nightmares didn't clue you in to the fact that this Batman is a little emotionally compromised because he ruminates on his failures?

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@capeshitsuccs Contrast.

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@xsphyre This is a dumb critique. Cavill has moments where he isn't exerting himself with his heat vision.

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@DrexLord04 @KishanNavadiya4 Superman does not put others at risk to do a job for Superman.

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@Niko_KCCO @RonDeSantis Or it's because the white dude is tall and the women upfront are shorter. Get your head out the sand.

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@heroesahead throughout the rest of the film.

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@heroesahead Jonathan knows he isn't ready for the kind of burden that being the answer to "Are we alone in the universe?" is. Clark is at most 18 years old here. He doesn't have it all figured out despite what he might think. It's a tragedy of inaction that haunts and informs his decisions