@Macafram@JucheAffirmer I find it logical. We live in a society that every day burns all it's finite resources chasing mars or starting wars that destroys a complex infrastructure we can't afford to repair. A slow return to a agricultural pre-1700s living standard is therefore inevitable.
@jonsson_henrik Högern behöver ständiga vänsterspöken för att dölja den inre splittringen mellan SD, AFS och ÖP. Vänstern har noll makt och utgör inget hot emot SD. Men populismen i sig utgör ett hot mot SD som nu utgör en del av etablissemanget.
@CMFM1998@fwprism But they do require rare metals and stored energy from the sun that took millions of years to produce. Finite, won't last forever. But yes apart from that, robots are cheaper for now.
@Krieg234@fwprism Humans don't get to work less in a automated society. Most become slaves to apps and efficiency by living on low wage like a stored cattle. But my point is that the complex infrastructure of robots can't last forever due to depletion of rare metals.
@abcxyz1abc@Cazemata@fwprism You can't run a late-modern technological supply line of robots, graphic cards and cars on wishful thinking and cope of endless progress. Once oil becomes to expensive resource horses and humans will have to work in the field again.
@H1tl3rRaypist88@HabibAhnaf9784 Nazi-germany went to war with lacking resources, bad supply lines, while later putting itself in a position of being outproduced in military hardware. Best soldiers in the world or the acts of traitorous generals, the outcome of the war was set the day it started.
@Cazemata@fwprism Agree, tho I would not call it obsession. Wishing that we had better ways of handling finite energy is just human wishing. Concluding that we don't, is a matter of fact. The fusion reactors are always 10 years away. It's the illusion of infinite technological progress.
@Cazemata@fwprism Horses and humans don't require a complex infrastructure to exist and work. Cars, robots, computer run on finite resources and will eventually be to expensive to run in the long term. A human working low wage just needs calories and a apartment. Not finite rare metals/energy.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates You specifically said institutions, not great man theory. My final take is that history is complex and can't be soley explained by both ends. I'm tierd of arguing with you. You throw smug insults at every reply. You don't argue for the sake of knowledge. Have a good day.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates The answer to that would be that a imperial death race between rising industrial superpowers gave rise to a great war that in turn gave lots of people really hard times, that in turn made people receptive of aggresive nationalism that institutions made politics off.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates No, claiming that Napoleon might have inherit traits like that of a megalomani is not a amateur psychoanalys. Caligula, Hitler and Stalin all had it. And in the strive for absolute power they ruined millions of lives. Going full marxist can't soley explain the outcome of history.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates Napoleon himself could not sue for peace, agree. But some other "great" individual might have been able to. The structure did not say "lets go full total war on eastern europe" it was Napoleon who did. His inherit megalomani traits told him to. The structure only allowed for it.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates No, unique humans can still alter and change history (based on structure ofc). Any other dictator could have altered history in another way. Like not invading Russia or making peace with the british. The great man theory can't be dismissed wholly due to pure structuralism.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates I'm not saying that great man theory goes over claims of structure, no. But it does explain certain historical phenomenons where individuals have immense sorts of power. No french revolution (structure) no great man like Napoleon (individual).
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates Napoleon, Stalin and Hitler did personaly alter history, many people where affected by the way they acted. You can't say that institutions acted on themselfs during the Stalins purges. History is complex, and I do claim that both individuals and the base of a society moves it.
@DanovicJoh28852@Asmon_Updates So you conclude that individuals can't make decisions that alter the lives of millions of people? Does history move soley by economics and the intrests of powerful institutions? I disagree, there are times in history where one powerful human changed the lives of the many.