Haven't done this in years, Posting a video of my game that I believe will show it in a positive light.
I've been crunching so incredibly hard the past month trying to bring to life a revolutionary control scheme I'm dubbing "MASHLESS" that allows the player to execute a full set of combat manuevers and attacks with nothing but directional input!
And I'm showing it off here, appologies for the crappy play (you'd think i'd be better at playing my own game after laboring over it for so many forsaken years), but it's difficult playing a game with phone controls using a darned mouse!
Anyhow, don't expect this post to get many eyes, maybe it will, but the algorythm is fickle.
It's like they always says, "You gotta start somewhere!" And starting today we start posting videos of our game, and every time we make a post, that's a small, small chance that maybe our game can get some eyes and we can start turning our luck around.
So anyway, this is our grand "MASHLESS" reveal, I've so much faith and blood sweat and tears in this project, but we've still a ways to go...
One year from now, how will AI change indie game dev?
A. More games, same quality
B. More games, better quality
C. A flood of low-effort games
D. Barely any change
Pick one.
@notch@0x4bs3nt The hype for AI is inversely proportional to the competency of the average systems programmer in Western gamedev
That is not a coincidence
Something tells me the Japanese have a more respectful culture with standards such that the AI will not disrupt the process of creating great works and actually supplement the endeavor to create great things.
I'm not anti AI, but I am anti this, "The AI is going to just do everything for us culture, just give up and let the AI do everything for you" mentality that is gripping the west.
Actually a pretty amazing game.
Reminds me of hte good old days where you could just click a flash game and have a good time for a few hours.
Rare little gem here.
@gr8_rebellion@wildgooseALT It's hard, because you burnout on gamedev and you can't go 24/7 all the time and bury your head in work.
Maybe I should just piss away more life on YouTube, but a lot of the videos on youtube are AI dooming as well.
Imma just go get to work XD, enough bitching!
I'm trying to to this, but it hangs over like a specter.
Tired of everyone talking about how you're falling behind or this or that trying to force their ideals on others and influencing this worlds projects.
I think it's supremely disrespectful to all developers to say if you do this or you don't do this you're doomed.
Some of us have invested our entire damned lives into our projects, and these assholes can only see the little untested aspirations before them, perfectly happy to sunder all existing works to force their pipe dreams on the world.
They don't have to do this, they could foster AI without discounting eveyrone else, but they do.
It drives me bonkers. Like what are we supposed to do? Just abandon our life's work because the powers that be decided AI is all that matters.
No one has respect for hard work or commitment any more.
All anyone cares about any more is if you're on their team or not, for this cause or that cause.
No one cares about the games, no one cares about the work flows, just forcing this orthodoxy or that orthodoxy.
It's gutting. This industry fucking blows. Sometiems I wonder why i work so hard.
I'm trying to to this, but it hangs over like a specter.
Tired of everyone talking about how you're falling behind or this or that trying to force their ideals on others and influencing this worlds projects.
I think it's supremely disrespectful to all developers to say if you do this or you don't do this you're doomed.
Some of us have invested our entire damned lives into our projects, and these assholes can only see the little untested aspirations before them, perfectly happy to sunder all existing works to force their pipe dreams on the world.
They don't have to do this, they could foster AI without discounting eveyrone else, but they do.
It drives me bonkers. Like what are we supposed to do? Just abandon our life's work because the powers that be decided AI is all that matters.
No one has respect for hard work or commitment any more.
All anyone cares about any more is if you're on their team or not, for this cause or that cause.
No one cares about the games, no one cares about the work flows, just forcing this orthodoxy or that orthodoxy.
It's gutting. This industry fucking blows. Sometiems I wonder why i work so hard.
I mean... what AI is evolving into is just communism.
Oh the world would be so much better if everyone just had anything!
YOU CAN'T OWN THAT LOGIC IT SHOULD BELONG TO EVERYONE!
Ok... well if everyone can just have it, and eveyrone's taking everyone else's logic...
What reason does anyone have to make the grueling hard to make logics that everyone else is just repurposing and stealing?
I already feel my drive to make unique awesome gameplay systems slipping away... everyone just wants to look at and uplift AI.
I think that's what they want. Just forcing AI on everyone.
I hate it.
I don't even hate AI i think it could be great. But the forcing of it, the glazing of it, the diminishing of hard work?
It drives me fucking crazy.
And all along the way these goofball AI users who don't know how to code are so smug about how their crappy games are, it's gross.
I mean... what AI is evolving into is just communism.
Oh the world would be so much better if everyone just had anything!
YOU CAN'T OWN THAT LOGIC IT SHOULD BELONG TO EVERYONE!
Ok... well if everyone can just have it, and eveyrone's taking everyone else's logic...
What reason does anyone have to make the grueling hard to make logics that everyone else is just repurposing and stealing?
I already feel my drive to make unique awesome gameplay systems slipping away... everyone just wants to look at and uplift AI.
I think that's what they want. Just forcing AI on everyone.
I hate it.
I don't even hate AI i think it could be great. But the forcing of it, the glazing of it, the diminishing of hard work?
It drives me fucking crazy.
And all along the way these goofball AI users who don't know how to code are so smug about how their crappy games are, it's gross.
True, to say nothing of this notion that "Oh, I can just hand the hard task of gamedev to the AI and it will do all the hard work for us".
If we indulge in that, then hard work doesn't matter.
Im very worried we enter a new culture of gamedev where everyone just expects all the logics and the tools to be provided for them, and we no longer reward those who push hard to do the truly remarkable things.
We've already decayed so much in this realm, the tools have gotten worse, the competencies have cratered, and people think the AI will reverse this?
It may make us so incompetent we do not see how far we have regressed...
Yeah, it's easy to blame the CEO's, because they wholly and completely FUCKED THIS ENTIRE INDUSTRY UP.
Gave all the money to these incompetent studios, allowed the love bombings and cults of personalities to take hold and destroy the west.
The CEO's fucked up, the STUDIOS fucked up, the DEVELOPERS fucked up.
And the GAMERS themselves aren't any fucking better.
It's a MASSIVE SHIT SHOW of incompetence, back scratching, greed, and nepotism.
The only thing these assholes DIDN'T concern themselves with was working hard and providing great games with earnest hard work, and faith in the medium.
The whole of this industry deserves to burn.
It’s very easy to blame the CEO…
But you can also very much blame the activism/ideology that made the game a joke and caused it to drastically underperform that forced the CEO to close a legendary studio
@impgud@jadel4w@_ArturoLagos_@georgebsocial Yeah i would say that nothing much good is coming from this conversation.
I'm not even sure what we're arguing about, kinda lost the thread a while back.
Best of luck to everyone.
I'm no senior, I was a grunt, I did all the hard work, and not trying to ignore your requests for discord I'm just tired and not wanting to try to set that all up.
You're young dude, as you say the world is complex, none of us fully percieve it, we're all trying to make sense of things in a way that we can survive, and there's nothing really wrong with that.
We're all just people trying to make it in our own way.
I honestly don't have the energy right now to do justice for what I want to say.
Mostly it just comes down to we need to start making cool shit, and we need to stop with the toxic positivity and we need to call each other out where we're doing things that led to where we are now as an industry.
I know I can myself be pompous and shitty, good on you guys for calling me out on it.
But in my mind and my heart I have earnest and legitimate reasons for airing these things.
You seem like a nice enough dude, try not to take this personal.
But good people have become part of a larger, evil machine, and they don't even percieve it.
I know you think I'm crazy, that's fine, I'd lived with this for a long time now.
Perhaps in time people will have a more rounded view of the world, a lot of people are living in echo chambers of late.
Or who knows, maybe i'm just the crazy wacko, that's entirely possible...
It is what it is.
I'm good, I'm working on a great game, left this industry to get away from smarmy, high and mighty tribalists like those of you in this thread.
Looks like the AAA industry finally woke up to who you all are as well.
I don't like making these posts, I don't like telling you guys you need to grow up, but you do.
For your own good. I know you think you're trying to help, I know this post makes me the asshole.
But please, try to be a bit more humble, and stop feeling as though you guys are the arbiters of what is right and true, and the gatekeepers of this industry.
I hate to even indulge this conversation because it was so petty, I'm just an idiot goofball that doesn't know what i'm talking about.
I've worked in this industry for years and years been on many team,s I'm not speaking out of my ass, and I know how these conversations work and this fabrication of the reality you guys want to live in.
It's kind of gross, what you guys do, you feed off of each other, you build each other up to such insane degrees, it's part of this sick arrangement that's built into this industry and why it became so toxically positive.
I'm ok, I'm working hard on a game in my lonesome.
I wish it wasn't so, I wish there was a more sane industry with great peopel to work with, but you guys drove each other insane, and you instituted all this horrid gatekeeping.
You can look at this thread, you can say you were wanting to help.
But if you take a step back, it's the usual tribalism, you scratch our back, you join our little cult of affirmations and you can be let in. You can have the affirmations, we will say your game is cool we will say you're one of the "good ones" and then I can have a seat at the table.
You guys don't even percieve this, you don't see the cult you are living in because you are submerged in this, you don't know any other way.
And over these dreadful years, gaming has bled, and meritocracy died. ANd now we're all watching as our careers die, and our crafts die, and you guys are still sitting there crying into each others ears how evil everyone else is and how wonderful you all are.
I'm good dude. I appreciate the concern. But what's going to get me out of my rut, is hard work and elbow grease.
I have an industry to help rebuild up from the pools of toxic positivity and cult of personality that you lost imposed on all of us.