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[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Timodc @hasanthehun @SamSeder This is somewhat fair.

Leftists should've shut up and held their noses in 2024 and centrists should do it now.

The difference is criticizing Kamala for supporting the arming of a genocide and criticizing Abdul for campaigning with a twitch streamer aren't even close to equal.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@ClippingWings @Timodc @SamSeder If you think about it, it actually makes sense she doesn't know who Sam is if she's not actually looking into what people's positions are and just seeing clips amplified on Twitter.

Sam's not really a hot take guy or someone who inserts himself into the drama like others.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@MattShar2 @Timodc @ClippingWings @SamSeder So is Hasan. Most normal people don't know about of give a shit about Hasan.

It's very strange for @SarahLongwell25 to not know Seder.

She's not an offline normie. She's a political commentator.

And he isn't some tankie. He was very vocal in support of both Kamala and Ukraine.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Timodc @ClippingWings @SamSeder Seems kind of reckless to just wing it on these issues when the stakes are so high.

Seder isn't some obscure media figure in left wing politics.

Hard to argue she isn't an irresponsible actor based on this.

https://t.co/2bJGsDwYzK

[Sarah Longwell @SarahLongwell25]

@leftiekiwi Why would I got on? I don’t even know who this guy is. And he clearly doesn’t know anything about me.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Timodc @ClippingWings @SamSeder If she doesn't even know who Sam Seder is, she's clearly not paying close attention to progressive media.

Why would anyone trust someone's opinion on left wing media figures, like Hasan Piker, if they don't even do enough basic due diligence to know the key figures in the space?

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@jpburelle @Noahpinion Holy shit this guy's a fucking idiot hahahaha

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@TheOmniLiberal Fucking crazy that @ArthurCDent @C_Kavanagh from @GurusPod are fans of this guy and collaborated with him.

They call out people constantly on Twitter but are totally silent on stuff like this.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler No shit that from a political philosophy view everyone who supports liberal democratic systems is a "liberal"

But that's not how language works. It's not what people mean when they use colloquial versions of "liberal" and "conservative".

This is fucking moronic.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Is this supposed to convince me Americans are cool?

You're being a total cunt when I mostly agreed with you.

You're saying I shouldn't use America as a barometer when that's exactly what you're doing and I'm specifically saying American politics isn't the same as Canada.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler I'm actually agreeing with most of what you're saying, you're just being too hyperbolic about a lot of shit.

Pierre wasn't uniquely terrible, but he was terrible.

He also failed harder than almost any Canadian politician in history. His personal unpopularity is truly historic.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler In fact, centrist conservatives, like Erin O'Toole who recently ran for prime Minister, would be firmly to the left of most Democrats.

You just don't understand how fucking crazy American politics is. It's fucking insane.

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@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Hahaha who's lecturing whom?

As a Canadian who doesn't like Carney's right wing slant, you're fucking crazy if you think it's comparable with American conservativism.

I don't think you know anything about Canadian politics.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler I don't disagree but you need to factor in the respective political spectrums.

It's not just Canada. Almost every centrist leader in a developed country would be closer to Bernie then than dem establishment.

Bernie just isn't really radical. He's calling for normal shit.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Plus, Carney is about as right wing as a Canadian liberal gets these days.

You're underestimating how crazy American politics are.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Man, I'm not saying it's a good thing.

I'm saying America is so fucking crazy that Carney is closer to Bernie than Schumer.

Selling off Airports sucks, but healthcare is a thousand times bigger than almost every political issue.

Bernie's also not that left on guns or Israel.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Minecrafte76711 @heygeordan @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Do Americans actually not think their political spectrum is skewed way to the right compared to other developed countries?

Is this even a controversial statement?

40% of Americans literally believe the universe is under 10000 years old.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler Was George W. Bush a liberal?

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@Kirby1399497 @AGlavkoverkh @MobyDickSpoiler A Canadian liberal's stance on healthcare, foreign policy, and gun control alone would make them closer to Bernie Sanders than establishment Democrats.

Not saying Carney isn't center-right, he is. But the US is so far right, center right in Canada is left in America.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@MrGeyser_ @MobyDickSpoiler This is fucking moronic.

[CleaverUsername @SweatyHug]

@hutchinson @krooner500 I don't know who you are but Canadians fucking hate your country.

Republicans are obviously way worse but liberal Americans' solution to trump was a senile man who couldn't talk, didn't expand the supreme court, and let garland not charge trump.

Democrats are complicit cowards.