Syntharr

[Syntharr @Syntharr]

I grew up in the LDS religion and was involved for many many years. Don’t assume I haven’t read it or been intimately familiar with the teachings.

I’d wager I’ve been far more open to considering the validity of the BoM than you have to its fallacies. But it is what it is.

The problem is that anytime i asked critical questions, i got round about answers and often was told to stop asking and “just believe”. There is a massive separation between BoM and Bible not just in historical evidence - but in content, extra biblical policies, etc etc. Any time I’ve pressed down that path in the past the house of cards falls down and I learned that truth wasn’t important to that church.

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@BenWMcKay @catholiccom You send teenagers out to be apologists for your faith, what do you mean you don’t engage in apologetics?

We’ll just agree to disagree. I pray you consider alternative paths for the good of your soul.

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@dmh1125 Anyone who reaches the Celestial kingdom.

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@ThisMomSaid @BasedMikeLee Perhaps learn what qualifies as truth and evidence and I’ll be swayed. Your bar for that is so low you resort to implying i wouldn’t believe proof.

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Again, another attack. Passive aggressive as usual because that’s what you and your religion teaches.

You don’t show proof because it doesn’t exist. I ask for evidence and you give me an LDS website which doesn’t even cite sources, it just makes loose claims that are not backed up by proven evidence.

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@ThisMomSaid @BasedMikeLee It’s NHM and you’re parroting LDS explanations.

https://t.co/jvx6K6eHdp

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@ThisMomSaid @BasedMikeLee I have researched and found nothing. Hence why I requested it. I didn’t demand anything I requested evidence and was even polite in my ask.

I even said “please” and yet here you are misrepresenting my words.

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Oh look an LDS that can’t support their religion and instead wants to passive aggressively attack me.

This isn’t a sign expected, it’s a demonstration of how invalid the Book of Mormon is since you, as always, struggle to provide any evidence of truth.

You’ve taken God’s word and turned it into something it isn’t. You’ve invented rituals and heresy.

And then you turn around and claim I lack faith. My faith is in truth. Yours is in falsehoods.

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Again, a vague explanation on the topic which isn’t supported by fact. You don’t cite sources you merely make claims of “1000’s of discoveries”. This is very common of any LDS I speak with, there is no substance to speak of.

No cities match Book of Mormon descriptions.
No evidence of large scale Israelite migration around the time of 600BCE.

I encourage you to hold a higher standard to evaluate truth. The problems with the Book of Mormon don’t even compare to the numerous problems and changes to application of belief that LDS have had over the years.

Be well.

[Syntharr @Syntharr]

No. What is confirmed is “NHM”, and that is only a loose assumption to mean Nahom:

https://t.co/wXo8wWd0wp

When evaluating truth, one method is to determine whether non believers agree something happened. (For example, historical records proving certain events happened in the New Testament). Taking these extremely vague and situational aspects as evidence to support the Book of Mormon also just points to its untruth.

There are massive battles and events described in the Book of Mormon. Where is the evidence of these? Historical records from civilizations beyond the BoM that supports these events?

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I requested non LDS scholars. The Nahom concept is widely touted by LDS members, however even as you point out it’s nowhere near satisfactory as a the claim you provided of “addressed thoroughly”. I can’t find a single non LDS individual that is an expert in the field that supports the claim that Nahom (NHM) provides evidence of Book of Mormon accuracy.

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@grok @justin_hart @grok Can you clarify? LDS believe that God was once human? Wouldn’t that imply that there is an even greater being that handles the “administration” of that exaltation in a sense?

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@grok @justin_hart Thank you @grok - what does LDS teach about the nature of God? Do they believe He is the one true God? Or an example of the plan of salvation carried out and thereby becoming a god of his own universe?

Again cite sources.

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@OffensiveHugs @catholiccom Love how none of you can give any sources for the “old world evidence”. You just parrot what you’re told.

Some Old Testament and most New Testament individuals and events can by and large be confirmed through historical reference. The same is not true for the Book of Mormon.

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Only vague prophecies that typical “psychics” can prophecy of…

“Persecution”
“Outcast”
Etc etc

This is why the LDS church has had to backtrack constantly over the years. For a long while the words of prophets was considered scripture, but that changed when serious flaws were presented to church leadership spoken by previous prophets.

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@BenWMcKay @catholiccom Please cite your source for the non LDS scholars that thoroughly address what was claimed.

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You are correct. They also claim their prophet speaks with God, but over time they are required to adjust and tweak how they apply their theological beliefs.

Jesus didn’t backtrack and flip flop on His teachings. LDS have done exactly that on numerous occasion despite the “resource” of a prophet who communicated directly with God.

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Wow. You are truly lost. I hope you one day apply critical thinking skills to your religion. Your soul needs it.

This is why trying to debate reality with LDS members is nearly impossible.

You claimed “internally consistent” and i gave you three examples about how your church has failed to be consistent. You cannot refute them because they are the truth of what happened, your church changed its theology and application of said theology. It’s a shame you struggle with recognizing truth when it’s right in front of you.