@ExStrategist@mattzarb 2/ after. Regarding the Establishment being spooked. With Starmer getting the boot. With Labour being told categorically. Get someone in that's got some authoritarian Centrist Dad of the worst order.
That we know.
@ExStrategist@mattzarb 1/ But that begs the question. What happened prior to Gorton and Denton? Why did The Greens have this massive expansion? Both in active membership and polling? How were they able to pull off that win at Gorton and Denton? Who was ultimately responsible?
As for what happened...
@ExStrategist I can't imagine you were too happy. Having to jettison Starmer. Having to take a back seat. Realising once again, the country at large hates your guts.
That Labour is only genuinely popular when it has an actual human being running things.
@selmerapido@LukeTryl@fharris2011 4/ (Veterans of the 2010's) could win elections. That was it. Something else needed trying.
That something being Andy Burnham. Him succeeding is another matter. So many variables. So much that could go wrong. So many people that wish him ill.
Starting with that old mate of...
@BareLeft Which has sparked a civil war on The Right. Seeing as how many have poured so much into Farage. They're not going to write off their investment quite yet.
@fharris2011@LukeTryl Simple. It showed the UK Establishment that killing the Post 2008 Left was impossible.
That because the material conditions were so different for those born after 1980. Be they economic, social, or otherwise. The old rules no longer applied.
'The 1970's' no longer ended things.
@Telegraph You mean what will happen if/when war criminals come face to face with the families of their victims? Because that's what it's about.
Continuing Israel's impunity. By any cost.
@timothy_stanley 2/ Willing, capable, seemingly caring, and (as a real added bonus) experienced.
But I do have one concern. Mandelson's bunch retreated in good order after Gorton and Denton. They are not nearly as defeated as they should be. Alas.
@timothy_stanley 1/ Begs the question. What on earth has been going on behind the scenes these past 20 years. Since we've had: -
A man who was clever and caring, but sullen and unlikeable
Two men who didn't want the job
A Chris Barrie character
And now, finally. Labour has someone who is...
@sharrond62 That's the press for you. Whipping up faux-outrages because it can. It was one of the main failings at Nuremberg. Not having a dedicated 'Journalist's Trial'.
Not dictating clear and enforceable 'minimum standards' of press behaviour.
Instead they run riot.