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@RayAlexWilliams If they are doing it with the motivation of mimicking women then the analogy is close.

If they are doing it with another motivation, such as they just like the aesthetic, then I agree the analogy does not hold.

How many of the men being discussed fall into each category?

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@JackxJewell TRAs often rely on conjuring the image of the idealised "perfectly passing transwoman".

Its not my view, but many people think that if it looks like a woman (to them), it is a woman.

Reality paints a different picture. Examples of actual "transwoman" shatters the illusion.

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@JLTPublishing @jk_rowling You actually fell for this misinformation?

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@yea_karen53 @AndrewGold_ok @PeterTatchell A non-vile trans activist who's willing to discuss the subject with someone who will challenge them. That's a tough ask.

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@FondOfBeetles @AndrewGold_ok Predatory, sexually-abusive males claiming they are trans?

Say it ain't so.

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@drjanaway @jk_rowling @SwipeWright What is this supposed mistake and what evidence do you have?

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@archer_rs For offences that require intent, stating that you do not have such an intent seems like a reasonable defence, unless it can be shown that the person is lying.

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@RayAlexWilliams TRAs: Trans people people know better than anyone what sex they are.

Me: Here are countless examples of trans people who are deluded in thinking they are the opposite sex.

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@RestIsPolitics @campbellclaret Your casual conflation between incitement to violence (calling for someone to be hung drawn and quartered) and expression of opinion (calling someone a super racist) shows a disturbing and cavalier attitude to the principle of freedom of expression.

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@T33ktr3at @FondOfBeetles @DuncanHenry78 I'm not sure how you came to any of those conclusions about me.

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@FondOfBeetles @DuncanHenry78 Is is true that sexed categories in sport is only legally permitted on the basis of performance advantage?

Other sex specific provisions are legally permitted that don't rely on performance advantage. Women-only gym hours, women's changing rooms, etc.

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@FinnWilson9 @PiscoLitty @chaklaia @SwipeWright Perhaps with more precise observation or with a revised model we could shrink the range for which we are unable to give a definitive answer.

Or, perhaps we accept the model's limitations and accept it is indeterminate in these cases.

Neither is necessarily right or wrong.

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@FinnWilson9 @PiscoLitty @chaklaia @SwipeWright I would think that many of our models have scope and precision criteria assumptions built in.

Whether an LED is on or off in the vast majority of contexts has a straightforward answer.

However, at the extreme boundary case, the model of a light being on or off breaks down.

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@FinnWilson9 @PiscoLitty @chaklaia @SwipeWright As we approach the hypothetical perfect boundary case I wonder if there remains any meaningful distinction between those two questions.

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@mrjamesob You are making a basic logical error.

https://t.co/wyLWnW958e

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@FinnWilson9 @PiscoLitty @chaklaia @SwipeWright Relating this back to the athletes in question that sparked this thread.

Although we might presume they have a DSD, as their stories have similarities to previous athletes with DSDs such as 5-ARD, we have no confirmation that is the case.

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@FinnWilson9 @PiscoLitty @chaklaia @SwipeWright In the case of sex, this is exactly what is done with DSDs. For the vast majority of cases of DSDs this judgement is relatively simple (with the aid of our current knowledge and modern technology).

In some extreme and rare cases this judgement can become difficult.

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@SwipeWright It's been 8 years since the 2016 Rio Olympics in which all 3 medalists in the women's 800m were male.

So for a long time they'be been aware of the the issue. They had plenty of opportunity to resolve it.

They've chosen to do nothing.

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@benryanwriter @AbigailShrier So now he's admitted to initially lying, why should we have any trust in his new account?