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Generalist. Christian.
Okay, Muslim friends, walk me through the timeline.
I’m serious.
I want a Muslim to actually walk me through it, because I was Muslim and nobody ever walked ME through it.
The Dead Sea Scrolls get copied starting around 250 BC.
The Septuagint, the Greek translation: The exact same era.
And everything from that point forward matches the Torah sitting on my shelf right now.
Two thousand years, one text, basically. So whatever “corruption” happened… had to happen before 250 BC, right?
Muhammad is born in 570 AD.
Bro.
You’re telling me the Jews scrubbed Muhammad’s name out of the Torah more than eight hundred years before anyone on earth had heard the name Muhammad…
They would’ve needed a prophecy of the guy just to know what to delete.
Which, funny enough, is the one prophecy Muslims insist was in there. AND THEN they corrupted every single story of Old Testament prophets to be completely different from what the Quran says…
In thousands of ways…
Made up a whole new Joseph story. Made up a plague of darkness and livestock. Made up a whole prophet named Nathan.
And then they suddenly just STOPPED?!
And they did all of this with literally no motive… Crime needs a motive.
The whole argument eats itself. It always does.
The Quran is not from God. Jesus Christ is King!
@CaptainNoticer@kufrchronicles@ModernDayDebate@GodLogic_GL It’s true the “us” passages, taken alone, do not prove Father, Son and Spirit. These are cumulative clues within progressive revelation. Yet, later revelation can clarify earlier texts without the earlier authors needing to have articulated it.
What do you make of Jesus' claim?
@abdulla68628108@ModernDayDebate@GodLogic_GL Moses wrote in Genesis: “Let us make man in our image”. "Us"? These are deliberate first-person plural utterances by the one God. The Shema itself (Deut 6:4) uses echad (unified/compound one) rather than yachid (absolute singular). Jews/Christians believe in echad (one) God.
@kufrchronicles@ModernDayDebate@GodLogic_GL Moses wrote Genesis: “Let us make man in our image” (1:26), “the man has become like one of us” (3:22), and “let us go down” at Babel (11:7). These are not decorative plurals they are deliberate first-person plural utterances by the one God.
That's just the start, plenty more.
@RealShahriqKhan You: Because Islam gives Jesus these divine labels, but no meaning, no prophecy, no story, no relationship. Just titles floating in space.
I think you're on to something here.
As somebody who read it in the Quran and is now Ex-Muslim, I knew that Jesus was coming back.
Surah 43:61 says that Jesus is a sign of the hour, as in the end, the day of judgment.
And even when I was Muslim, I had this deep conviction like, yo, if He’s alive and if He’s coming back, I gotta know who He is and actually know Him.
Because the more I read the Bible trying to disprove it, the more I saw one theme: When He returns, people will not recognize Him.
They will miss the signs. Oof.
Your boy was not trying to be one of them.
So, I started digging. The Quran says in Surah 3:47 that He’s born of a virgin. In Surah 3:49 that He gives life and heals the blind. In Surah 19 that He’s sinless. And in Surah 4, He’s called the Word from God and Al Masih, the Messiah.
And I had to stop and ask:
What do those titles actually mean?
Because Islam gives Jesus these divine labels, but no meaning, no prophecy, no story, no relationship. Just titles floating in space. So I opened the Bible. That’s where I found out who Jesus really is.
Not just what He did, but who He is. Bro, that’s what hit me the hardest.
You can believe Jesus is coming back and still not know who you’re meeting.
Now that I’ve met Him, I’m not just waiting for His return.
I’m living like He could knock on the door today.
Islam gave me titles. Christianity gave me a Savior!
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I used to joke as a Muslim: “God doesn’t have a wife... so how can He have a son?”
The claim that God had a Son sounded so blasphemous to my Muslim framework. But no one had explained this to me:
In Semitic culture, “son of” doesn’t mean biological. It basically means identity, like of the same nature.
Son of Man = fully human.
Son of God = fully divine.
That’s why in John 5:18 they tried to kill Jesus, not for healing, but because calling God His Father meant He was making Himself equal with God.
What used to offend me was this: I am messy. Totally human. The idea of a perfect God stepping into my mess felt wrong. Almost humiliating. Grace given despite my shame.
But, before I accepted Christ, I had it backwards.
God wasn’t lowering Himself out of weakness. He was purposely stepping down out of love. I wasn’t climbing my way to heaven, I literally can't. So, God came down - not as a rulebook, not as religion - but as a Son.
As a Savior. Of course, God didn’t get married. He revealed His nature to us.
And when I finally saw it, it didn’t make Him smaller or weaker. It made Him infinitely more powerful and beautiful!
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@themendelbrain@JosiahForYeshua Isaiah 1:18 isn't an invitation to disagree with God though, it was a judicial "settlement offer": if the people repent and reform then...
You are in danger of leading others to a slippery slope.
@Little_Ms_Nope And yet early Christians (Jews) weren’t inventing new theology out of thin air, they were drawing on existing Jewish interpretive traditions.
Ethiopia: At least 47 Ethiopian Christians were killed, and another 18 hospitalized, in coordinated attacks targeting them in the Oromia region.
Surviving witnesses claimed regional authorities collaborated with Islamist militias to carry out the massacre.
Church leaders have repeatedly warned local authorities about armed groups entering the area, but received no serious response.
This is not an isolated incident, but rather part of a pattern of targeted attacks against Ethiopian Christians, who militants conflate with Amhara ethnicity.
This fusion of religious and ethnic violence against innocent Christians and their churches must not be tolerated.
We condemn these evil acts and call for the protection of Ethiopia’s Christians.
BREAKING: New footage shows the moment Islamists entered a church in Jordan and began slaughtering worshippers.
Six have been confirmed dead, with dozens more injured.
@RTB_HRoss Thanks Dr Ross, that's a great way to explain it. My usual go to explanation is that there are two perspectives, God's and man's.
The reason for the debates IMO is man's pride, an unwillingness to let God be God and compelling desire to put Him in the box we built.
@Woodygocats59@aingealfray@TimjboAU I think in principle, parents not governments should be responsible for their children's activities online. There is already a ban on under 16's use of social media but they are using 14 year old as an example for the why of this new law, which is indicative of other intent.
@MeganSuspended A society which loses a shared moral framework (Judaeo-Christian is 1 of 3 pillars of Western Society) tends to hand more of its moral work (care for the poor, family, community) to government, and that this swaps voluntary giving for compulsion.
Voluntary → involuntary = lose.
Australia is poisoning the food supply.
Toxin free food is impossible to buy unless you’re prepared to pay out for organic.
First it was the mung beans. China won’t take them after finding glyphosate at five times their limit.
And now reports that our fruits and veggies are carrying pesticides long banned overseas. With 44% showing forever chemicals like fiprinol.
Much of our cheese is made with what is labelled ‘non animal’ rennet. À lab grown rennet first developed by Pfizer using genetically modified bacteria.
They are still allowing Bovaer in beef and most bread is fortified with folic acid.
If you’ve ever wondered why obesity levels have skyrocketed it in the past 30 yrs you have to recognise that these chemicals are all metabolic disrupters at the very least.