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the concept and execution of @shipordie_ by @marclou and @jackfriks is brilliant. the site looks incredible
but the $249 one-off price point feels slightly exploitative given the target market
by definition, early-stage indie makers are bootstrapped and need to extend their cash runway as long as possible. the marginal cost of running a gamified community platform is incredibly low. this could easily be priced at ยฃ30 to ยฃ50 and still be highly profitable.
charging $249 for a community where you get kicked out without a refund if you don't ship feels less like providing an accessible launchpad, and more like monetising an audience of beginners who look up to you.
i appreciate that getting a retweet and some exposure from their large followings is a nice bonus, but it is a very steep entry ticket for a solo builder with limited funds
genuinely curious about the pricing strategy here, @marclou and @jackfriks. is the high barrier to entry meant to be a financial filter for commitment, or is it just what the market will bear?
slight improvent to showcase people heads down building: a new boat!
now anyone in discord voice channel "co-working" shows live on the /coworking ship on site. pretty cool i think.
@jackthinkz@shipordie_@marclou@jackfriks oh you're so sensible - i agree with you 3 points
but not everyone is
but, again, everyone is free to spend their money as they wish
@vonketelhodtM@shipordie_@marclou@jackfriks depends on how you look at it
i see it as two dudes who've pretty much made it getting poor indies to fork out cash for proximity to their success
not a fan
to be clear, this isn't a personal comment on @marclou or @jackfriks.
they are brilliant builders who inspire a lot of people just starting out on this journey.
but looking at it exactly from that beginner's perspective, charging $249 for a low overhead community still feels exploitative on this specific occasion.
yes, people make their own choices, but this project could do so much more for the indie hacker ecosystem if it was priced accessibly rather than acting as a premium financial filter.
@TaniaBelldotcom@shipordie_@marclou yes the price is higher so people who buy are serious, it is a filter
but also, if someone is extremely strapped for cash they do not NEED to buy this- people make their own choices here and calling it exploitation i think is an overstatement, and a discredit to individuals
in this instance ppl are paying for proximity to their idols in the hope they'll achieve the same level of success
i simply don't feel the need to make money this way
and if i were in the same position that they are today i wouldn't have chosen to make money that way either - it's exploitative
fair enough, i concede the dictionary definition. technically, access to a community and a leaderboard is a digital product
but arguing semantics misses the actual point of my critique.
the core value proposition being sold here isn't a unique piece of software or a proprietary framework. what is being monetised here is simply proximity to marc and jack.
it is the modern equivalent of selling high-ticket pickaxes to novice miners during a gold rush. it is a product, sure. but its $249 price tag is entirely reliant on the parasocial relationship beginners have with the founders, rather than the utility of the platform itself. that is the specific dynamic i am calling out.