If someone ever tells you a certain song is important to them you should turn it up and lay on your bed and close your eyes and really listen to it even if its 10 minutes long because at the end you will know that person much better I think
@c0njectur3@fiendformojitos He cant break it again, its already broken. Hes able to do what he did without paying because it is broken and the gods have already delivered their judgement for him. I dont see him getting what he wanted as proof of redemption, only victory
@c0njectur3@fiendformojitos Fair read of him asking us for forgiveness. Maybe im not catholic enough to equate forgiveness with redemption. He never takes any action of repentance, so i never believed he was redeemed, but maybe Nolan intended something different
@c0njectur3@fiendformojitos I saw the suitors as the cementing scene that Odysseus is not redeemed. Instead its a continuation, something he only gets away with because Zeus' law is shattered by his previous actions. He knows and accepts this. If he was redeemed, he would have changed his ways. He didnt
@c0njectur3@fiendformojitos There is no shyness in the scene of troy. You somehow need more proof of the evils of murder and war, but hallucinate a redemption. What scene suggests that Odysseus is redeemed?