"I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
Jesus said this out of nowhere. One sentence. No explanation. Then He moved on.
It's one of the strangest verses in the Gospels, and most people skip right past it.
Here's what was actually happening.
In Luke 10, Jesus sends out seventy-two disciples ahead of Him. Ordinary people. Not the twelve. They come back stunned: "Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name!"
And Jesus answers: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
The Greek unlocks it. The verb is ἐθεώρουν (etheōroun) - imperfect tense. Not "I saw" as a single glance, but "I was watching." Continuous. Ongoing.
While the seventy-two were out preaching in village after village, Jesus was watching Satan's dominion collapse in real time. Every demon that fled, every town that received the Kingdom, another crack of lightning. Sudden. Visible. Irreversible.
Some hear an echo of Isaiah 14:12 here - "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star" and the ancient fall of the enemy. Others see Jesus speaking prophetically of the cross, where the ruler of this world would be driven out (John 12:31). The early church fathers read it both ways, and the verse holds both: what began before time was now breaking into time.
But notice what Jesus says next because it's the real point, and almost nobody quotes it:
"Nevertheless, do not rejoice that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (Luke 10:20)
Power over darkness wasn't the prize. It never was.
The enemy falls like lightning - fast, loud, spectacular.
But your name in heaven is written quietly and permanently in a Book no lightning can touch.
That's where Jesus told them to fix their joy.
That's where He tells you to fix yours.
Jesus told us to “turn the other cheek.”
Then someone struck Jesus in the face.
And He didn’t turn the other cheek.
That is not a contradiction. It is one of the clearest clues we have to what Christ actually meant—and the Fathers explicitly used it to explain the passage. 🧵
@Defendthesee@pkh7276_pkh@Thatbrian The word you mistranlated should be "teachings" not "traditions", in original Greek. No contradictions, we should hold true to the teachings. You see how having the wrong understanding of scripture, as you alluded to, is of Satan.
@ChiefValerian@mikek55905054@frjamesa@grok I will respectfully bow out. This is not a salvation issue and you are a fellow child in Christ, however misguided. I wish you well in your journey to truth.
@ChiefValerian@mikek55905054@frjamesa@grok This is just telling you (and me) what it thinks we want to hear, literally proves nothing on either side. But mine uses biblical evidence at least.
@ChiefValerian@mikek55905054@frjamesa@grok Of course God can do as he wishes, and can GRANT attributes as he wishes, but you cant, without biblical backing, give them to people.
@ChiefValerian@mikek55905054@frjamesa Ill keep it simple, for Mary to know the thoughts/prayers of EVERY PERSON, ALL AT ONCE, that would require omniscience. 1 Kings 8:39, psalms 139 1-4 and Jeremiah 17:10. Attributes only of God.
@HabitualLinest@AlabokSaAlabok I think keeping things in context is important....its says "did not sin by breaking a command". Jesus points out those who day they can "keep the law" sin even by thinking about it. It is a bigger claim that needs to be cited how Mary is sinless. No strawman please.
@ChiefValerian@mikek55905054@frjamesa Arrogance is not a virtue, you cannot just say things with no backing and feel "holier than though"....I looked at your postings and realized I agree with 99% of what you've posted or commented on, however, this ain't it bro. I am well familiar with what those attributes entail.