@Darkpyre_1031@moak_ryan The church does not teach that. You probably know that. And if you brought up the genealogy point the burden is on you. It's not for me to go and validate your point.
@Darkpyre_1031@moak_ryan I'm lying but you never looked anywhere else but the B of M. If you compare two different ideas you'll usually be confused.
The Bible is no less accepted scripture....as is taught in those talks you supposedly discussed.
@moak_ryan Yeah, that whole verse refers to an existence before birth, including the act of being ordained before birth. That's too specific for the good vibes of Omnipresence. Nobody denies man fell instead of God (odd).